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Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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OP, DM me and I'll get you a persistent key for this data. Not from MarineTraffic

Wow thanks, there's not really any dm functionality on hn and I didn't see a clear social handle in your profile. https://github.com/montanaflynn/ has my email.

You could get in touch with GP by googling for his company (see profile), finding his name through the company website (he's the CEO), and then googling for his LinkedIn/X accounts.

Also: Cool project!

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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>It’s perverting the wisdom of the crowd and efficient market thesis. I mean, looking at futures and stocks now, I dont believe in those anymore anyway.

typical HN comment when it comes to finance and the stock market. Over and over again the wisdom of the HN crowd is wrong in regards to stocks. Intel at its bottom (they are done, and doomed, listening to main stream media) perfect time to buy and load up. This has occurred over and over again in my 15 years being on HN, almost always they call a bottom.

Have you seen what they do every time half sleeping Trump farts another truth social post?

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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but what about other experiments, just saying, it's subjective you could, presumably, mess up other instruments than visual to interfere with enemy countries

"Nice crop watering prediction model you have there, shame if someone modified source data and your crops would falter..."

grim times

and you just know governments will do supply chain style attacks.

Crypto AG cia front company, encryption devices

backdoor in RSA key generation by nsa

exploding pagers

usa installing bugs in enterprise router exports

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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This is a nice overview, but please remove the PolyMarket indicator. It is an obscene prediction mechanism as it creates horrible financial incentives to a war situation. Its degenerate effects have been featured here before. [1] Let's not condone "measurements" that are effectively ways for people to gain money on important political decisions, affecting the lives of many people. (1) https://news.ycombinator.com/ite…

> "obscene" And yet, it is the wisdom of the crowds. The crowds being obscene. Aren't we all constantly hitting re-fresh for updates, and making predictions. The prediction markets are just consolidating that 'desire'.

For me, I had a similar reaction to the original commenter.

I thought about it more and realized it’s the “via Polymarket” tag on it. It reads like an advertisement. I don’t need to know the exact market the figure is from. Someone could even combine multiple ones and I still wouldn’t want to know.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Oman and Iran are splitting the fees RE: the statements by Iran.

And Trump. Didn't Trump float the Idea of a joint venture with Iran on the Fees? Amazing, that once you could make money on a toll, Trump was "there is profit in peace? lets get this peace thing going"

Maybe we can get israel to pay some of our billion dollars a day military costs. Adelson gave stump 750 million for campaign. There must be a lot of wallets in the us that will open for israel. Maybe a synagogue tax?

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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That's really cool. I tried to blog about it in the early days of the war and tried to show it in realtime as well. As you discovered, it's really expensive to get ship tracking APIs. So I also did something similar, where I took the JSON from Marine Traffic and mapped it onto a Mapbox map. I did a very rudimentary-ish job — I think what you created is much more refined.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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According to the Financial Times (1), the straight is "open" but Iran is extorting fees for passing ships. > "Iran will demand that shipping companies pay tolls in cryptocurrency for oil tankers passing through the Strait of Hormuz, as it seeks to retain control over passage through the key waterway during the two-week ceasefire." If they really will start doing so for all shipping, that would be odd since the straig…

Iran hasn't ratified it and is not a party to that agreement. You can't really fault a country for not complying with an extraterritorial law made by and for other countries.

If you are really of that opinion, does that include not accepting warcrimes committed by the US or Iran? Or Israel (and many other nations, including all arab countries, at least half of Africa, and more)

You see, they have not ratified or withdrawn from the Rome treaty, which is the only UN treaty that talks about war crimes.

What I'm saying, if countries just get to opt out of treaties, where that affects a great deal of other countries (like here, in Iran's case), and that just lets them off the hook, then you can just close up the UN and start WW3 right now. Because that just became unavoidable.

(historically people use "war crimes" for Geneva convention violations too, but those can only be presented to the UNSC, and with China and Iran blocking everything, nothing will ever be accepted there. So if those are warcrimes, that's a purely theoretical thing only)

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post #187

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Iran hasn't ratified it and is not a party to that agreement. You can't really fault a country for not complying with an extraterritorial law made by and for other countries.

If you are really of that opinion, does that include not accepting warcrimes committed by the US or Iran? Or Israel (and many other nations, including all arab countries, at least half of Africa, and more) You see, they have not ratified or withdrawn from the Rome treaty, which is the only UN treaty that talks about war crimes. What I'm saying, if countries just get to opt out of treaties, where that affects a great…

> does that include not accepting

Their point wasn't about accepting it or not, it was about Iran not being bound by the terms of a treaty they've never ratified. And of course that applies to any state and any treaty.

War crime is something of a different case also because it's a term which exists separately in the popular lexicon and isn't used solely to mean "not in keeping with the terms of the UNSC."

Your comment also seems to be an example of whataboutery. It might be worth considering what prompted that.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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It's only hard to tell if you rely on the US billionaire controlled media.

It's been very hard to watch how many people who, a few years ago, believed everything the media said about say the pandemic, now claim you can't trust them at all. Time makes "conspiracy theorists" out of all of us -- it can be hard to see just how much the media lies and distorts, until they start talking about something you care about.

> how many people who, a few years ago, believed everything the media said about say the pandemic

Are you sure they're the same people and do you have examples of misinformation these people believed 6 years ago?

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are really of that opinion, does that include not accepting warcrimes committed by the US or Iran? Or Israel (and many other nations, including all arab countries, at least half of Africa, and more) You see, they have not ratified or withdrawn from the Rome treaty, which is the only UN treaty that talks about war crimes. What I'm saying, if countries just get to opt out of treaties, where that affects a great…

> does that include not accepting Their point wasn't about accepting it or not, it was about Iran not being bound by the terms of a treaty they've never ratified. And of course that applies to any state and any treaty. War crime is something of a different case also because it's a term which exists separately in the popular lexicon and isn't used solely to mean "not in keeping with the terms of the UNSC." Your commen…

Not at all. Freedom of navigation, the specific principle Iran violates, is one of the core parts of the post-WW2 "security architecture". Which is a difficult way of saying, it's the big reason we don't have WW3. And now you say, we'll just let Iran "opt out" and firing at other people's ships is just fine now ...

This means getting goods from other countries without paying tax to half the countries in between is no longer possible. It means no more business for any gulf country without paying Iran. It means no more business between EU and Asia without paying Spain and Morocco. It means ... Half the world's wars have been fought over that and the "way out" has been: as long as you use the seas, you get to do that, for free.

You see the problem, I hope?

Yes I get it, we all hate Trump, and this is "showing Trump" (not really, of all countries, the US is one of the least affected by this. This is especially horrible for Europe, especially specific European countries, most of Asia, most of South America and Russia)

Back to wars it is, I guess. This will rapidly deteriorate to the point where a great many countries are effectively unable to trade internationally.

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