I'm not as interested in news from 40 years ago, but for years I've been wanting a news website that only talks about things that have already happened and not just things that are so promising or going to change the world or definitely absolutely going to come out eventually but that never actually do. I get so fed up of hearing for so long about promising exciting new stuff that never actually happens. And even of the stuff that does happen, the wait kills me. I'm so tired of getting excited and having to wait. Hacker News is practically my only source of any current events because of how everything else is full of hype and speculation and just exhaustion.
Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay
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Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay
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In a similar vein, I think even news from 40 years ago can teach us a lot. The players may be different, but the game is the same. Many of today’s wars and conflicts were already ongoing; big pharma, big food, oil companies, corruption in our institutions, manufactured coups… it all feels like nothing ever really changes.
Yup, on this site today, I see stories about the Reagan/Gorbochav talks. The "not an inch Westward" promise made to the USSR about NATO being repeatedly broken is directly relevant to today's invasion of Ukraine. And I also see stories about Lebanon fighting to end occupation by US and Israeli forces which is quite relevant to the other major conflict the US is tangled up in
It's funny how trolls think NATO is supposed to be accountable to an unwritten informal "promise" that must be removed from its context to seem relevant while the same people never seem to hold Russia accountable for violating its direct written promises in the Budapest memorandum -- a violation that gets worse when you add the context that Ukraine gave up its nukes for the security guarantees that Russia obliterated in 2022.
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> Hamas was an aspiring near-peer military force This is beyond ridiculous. Israel is a nuclear-armed regional power with tanks, a modern navy, a state of the art air force, the best missile defence system in the world, and one of the best counterintelligence operations. It can project force thousands of kilometres away into Iran. Hamas is none of that. Even on sheer manpower, sources from 2023 put Hamas at 3 to 30 t…
> they would have been successful missile attacks on Tel Aviv --- start quote --- In January 2008 the border between Gaza and Egypt was breached by Hamas. It allowed them to bring in Russian and Iranian-made rockets with a larger range. In the first half of 2008, the number of attacks rose sharply, consistently totaling several hundred per month. In addition, Ashkelon was hit many times during this period by Grad roc…
I can call throwing a grenade in Jerusalem a successful attack with an explosive device, but all those attacks together over the past decade haven’t even come close to scratching the deaths inflicted by a single Israelli bomb. I can’t even imagine how people keep repeating that. The attacks two years ago were noteworthy exactly because they were so relatively effective.
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Ok, the big problem in this whole thing is assymetrical nature of the thing. The Israelli military is a military funded and shaped by the US one, and it’s a mammoth in all the ways that matter. Hamas, after years of being supressed, is a group of militants with handguns. The Isrealli response to those terrorist with guns killing and abducting some of their people, was to flatten and impose collective punishment on th…
The thing with Gaza is that HAMAS there had 20 years of unlimited power, wholly funded by the UN/US/Qatar aid. Gaza literally has no other significant income streams. HAMAS spent this time to build a network of tunnels below the streets, and to stockpile ammo/explosives. They could care less about the people, using them only as human shields. They also actively brainwashed the population: https://www.ynetnews.com/mag…
They murdered 1195 people, and on a country of 7 million? That is terrible you say?
How about murdering 17,000 children in a country with a population of 2M total?
Does that sound better?
Nearly one in 20 people in Gaza was murdered by the Israelli military. That’s an ridiculous number. Since Nazi germany managed about 10% of their occupied population in 5 years, I guess they were right on track to hit those numbers before (can’t believe I’m saying this) Trump thought it was necessary to intervene, whatever his reasons.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm assuming that bit you're quoting 'militants with handguns' was hyperbolic, but it serves its purpose to compare and contrast the two. How much damage has those Russian and Iranian built rockets done in Israel? How many tanks do Hamas have? How many fighter jets do Hamas have? How many nuclear weapons do Hamas have? The fact is, Hamas is a product of being a military in a territory that is subject to blockade by I…
> How much damage has those Russian and Iranian built rockets done in Israel? Enough for Israel to build Iron Dome. Iron Dome literally exists because these "poor militants with handguns" were firing hundreds of rockets per month at targets in Israel. From Wikipedia: --- start quote --- In January 2008 the border between Gaza and Egypt was breached by Hamas. It allowed them to bring in Russian and Iranian-made rocket…
> 100 million annually to Hamas and other Palestinian groups
Oh my goodness. 100 million? They can afford one tenth of a JSF!
To just immediately quote the first thing that google spit out in it’s AI search thing:
> A mid-size hospital (defined as having 100 to 499 beds) typically has an annual operating budget of several hundred million dollars.
After some research, it seems that the budget of Israel’s military is about 3x Hamas’s entire annual operating budget.
Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they would have been successful missile attacks on Tel Aviv --- start quote --- In January 2008 the border between Gaza and Egypt was breached by Hamas. It allowed them to bring in Russian and Iranian-made rockets with a larger range. In the first half of 2008, the number of attacks rose sharply, consistently totaling several hundred per month. In addition, Ashkelon was hit many times during this period by Grad roc…
I can call throwing a grenade in Jerusalem a successful attack with an explosive device, but all those attacks together over the past decade haven’t even come close to scratching the deaths inflicted by a single Israelli bomb. I can’t even imagine how people keep repeating that. The attacks two years ago were noteworthy exactly because they were so relatively effective.
Literally hundreds of rocket attacks per month, including foreign rockets.
"Oh it's just a single grenade in Jerusalem or something"
Iron Dome literally built to protect from hundreds of rocket attacks.
"Oh, it's not even close to scratching the deaths from Israeli bombs"
A well-organised organisation easily orchestrating the attacks, and with a funding at lower estimates of at least $200 million
"Oh, it's just militants with handguns. It's just $100 million, not that much" [1].
> I can’t even imagine how people keep repeating that.
Yes, yes I can't imagine how people keep being Hamas apologists in the face of actual reality.
[1] My original comment said "I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas had total funding near the same level as IDF.". This is definitely not true. But man. To dismiss the lower estimate of ~$200 million dollars as "it's nothing" and to pretend that Hamas is neither well funded nor well organised is just absolute insanity.
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What does this do?
It gets news over RTTY (the ancient teletype, some sort of radio comms used by journalist, military and so on). Curl just downloads the HTTP stream to the standard output, as a music player would do with a online radio. The stream it's in MP3 format, so the terminal output it's piped (chained) to LAME's input. LAME it's an infamous MP3 decoder for Unix/Linux since the old Napster times. This part of the command, as y…
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Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay
#188this is a great app. it's equal parts fascinating and terrifying to think what could have been, and how little headlines have changed over the years. well done with this! definitely gonna bookmark and visit often :)
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing with Gaza is that HAMAS there had 20 years of unlimited power, wholly funded by the UN/US/Qatar aid. Gaza literally has no other significant income streams. HAMAS spent this time to build a network of tunnels below the streets, and to stockpile ammo/explosives. They could care less about the people, using them only as human shields. They also actively brainwashed the population: https://www.ynetnews.com/mag…
They murdered 1195 people, and on a country of 7 million? That is terrible you say? How about murdering 17,000 children in a country with a population of 2M total? Does that sound better? Nearly one in 20 people in Gaza was murdered by the Israelli military. That’s an ridiculous number. Since Nazi germany managed about 10% of their occupied population in 5 years, I guess they were right on track to hit those numbers…
Israel did not murder 17000 children.
Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay
#190Otherwise known as "history"