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Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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There are multiple boot-time recovery options, but you might not have a required firmware update to use them. Per everymac, all 2014 MBA’s should be able to run up to Big Sur? What is offered to install when you do this? https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/use-macos-recovery-... > Option-Command-R: Start up from macOS Recovery over the internet. Use this key combination to reinstall macOS and upgrade to the late…

I don’t know, I’ve performed numerous updates from the pre-installed Mavericks (Yosemite, El Capitan, High Sierra, Big Sur are the ones I remember, might be more), but the default recovery still goes into Mavericks for me

You might need to update the firmware for your Mac in order for the Internet Recovery to support updating to Big Sur. The firmware updates are installed at upgrade time usually, but you may be able to install them separately.

> About EFI and SMC firmware updates for Intel-based Mac computers

https://support.apple.com/en-us/101198

I would see if you can access this:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macos-big-sur/id1526878132

Download it, then you can make a bootable flash drive if you want, or just install it from under macOS.

> How to download and install macOS

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102662

> Create a bootable installer for macOS

https://support.apple.com/en-us/101578

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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I don’t know, I’ve performed numerous updates from the pre-installed Mavericks (Yosemite, El Capitan, High Sierra, Big Sur are the ones I remember, might be more), but the default recovery still goes into Mavericks for me

You might need to update the firmware for your Mac in order for the Internet Recovery to support updating to Big Sur. The firmware updates are installed at upgrade time usually, but you may be able to install them separately. > About EFI and SMC firmware updates for Intel-based Mac computers https://support.apple.com/en-us/101198 I would see if you can access this: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macos-big-sur/id152687…

Big Sur Recovery mode works for me with Option+Cmd+R, so if needed I can install that. What I meant is that the other goes into Mavericks Recovery mode. And I’m happy about that actually :-)

Edit: if you were referring to Option+Cmd+R anyway, I guess I misread

Edit2: by other one I meant Shift+Option+Cmd+R, just Cmd+R actually goes into Big Sur, you are right!

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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You might need to update the firmware for your Mac in order for the Internet Recovery to support updating to Big Sur. The firmware updates are installed at upgrade time usually, but you may be able to install them separately. > About EFI and SMC firmware updates for Intel-based Mac computers https://support.apple.com/en-us/101198 I would see if you can access this: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macos-big-sur/id152687…

Big Sur Recovery mode works for me with Option+Cmd+R, so if needed I can install that. What I meant is that the other goes into Mavericks Recovery mode. And I’m happy about that actually :-) Edit: if you were referring to Option+Cmd+R anyway, I guess I misread Edit2: by other one I meant Shift+Option+Cmd+R, just Cmd+R actually goes into Big Sur, you are right!

Yeah, there are a few keyboard combinations that do different things.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102655

> On an Intel-based Mac:

> If you used Command-R to start up from the local Recovery system, you get the current version of the most recently installed macOS.

> If you used Option-Command-R to start up from Internet Recovery, you might get the latest macOS that is compatible with your Mac.

> If you used Shift-Option-Command-R to start up from Internet Recovery, you might get the macOS that came with your Mac, or the closest version still available.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Big Sur Recovery mode works for me with Option+Cmd+R, so if needed I can install that. What I meant is that the other goes into Mavericks Recovery mode. And I’m happy about that actually :-) Edit: if you were referring to Option+Cmd+R anyway, I guess I misread Edit2: by other one I meant Shift+Option+Cmd+R, just Cmd+R actually goes into Big Sur, you are right!

Yeah, there are a few keyboard combinations that do different things. https://support.apple.com/en-us/102655 > On an Intel-based Mac: > If you used Command-R to start up from the local Recovery system, you get the current version of the most recently installed macOS. > If you used Option-Command-R to start up from Internet Recovery, you might get the latest macOS that is compatible with your Mac. > If you used Shift-…

There is another one, you can hold Option while booting and it will show disks to boot from. But there is also a SSID dropdown to do internet recovery like Shift+Option+Command+R.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Yeah, there are a few keyboard combinations that do different things. https://support.apple.com/en-us/102655 > On an Intel-based Mac: > If you used Command-R to start up from the local Recovery system, you get the current version of the most recently installed macOS. > If you used Option-Command-R to start up from Internet Recovery, you might get the latest macOS that is compatible with your Mac. > If you used Shift-…

There is another one, you can hold Option while booting and it will show disks to boot from. But there is also a SSID dropdown to do internet recovery like Shift+Option+Command+R.

Yes, Option is boot menu iirc.

You can even boot to Linux or Windows if you have the patience to set it up. I made a hackintosh for hard drive data recovery that would dual boot Windows 10 and macOS. It’s a fun ecosystem.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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There is another one, you can hold Option while booting and it will show disks to boot from. But there is also a SSID dropdown to do internet recovery like Shift+Option+Command+R.

Yes, Option is boot menu iirc. You can even boot to Linux or Windows if you have the patience to set it up. I made a hackintosh for hard drive data recovery that would dual boot Windows 10 and macOS. It’s a fun ecosystem.

Yeah I remember using BootCamp back then. FreeBSD also works quite well on the MacBook Air mid-2014, but without WiFi.

Edit: I didn’t bother to look into wifibox which is a FreeBSD package that runs a Linux VM for the WiFi driver, that could work. Also didn’t bother to check the webcam. However both WiFi and webcam work under various Linux distributions, but it’s typically a third-party Broadcom driver that has to be added outside of regular package repos.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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I think it depends on what was the current version when your model came out. Should have said mid-2014 like OP, sorry

> Should have said mid-2014 like OP, sorry I don't want to belabor the point, but just to be clear—I am referring to a mid-2014 MBA, anything newer and Mavericks wouldn't work! (There is no "late 2014" MBA as far as I'm aware.) Mine offers to install Yosemite in recovery mode. It may indeed be based on when that specific computer came off of the assembly line or something, I have no idea, but for that exact model of…

I guess I was also confused about the different recovery modes as pointed out by aspenmayer below.

I used Shift+Option+Command+R (or hold Option and choose WiFi instead of disk) which is internet recovery using the macOS version that came pre-installed (or closest)

Whereas Command+R is local recovery which might be any macOS version that last changed the local recovery environment.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Big fan of your OS X stuff! I still have a 11" 2012 MacBook Air with Core i7 and 8 GB RAM, if only I could use it as my everyday machine I'd be very happy! I didn't know about Firefox Dynasty, it's very cool. (Wow, and Archive Plus and Preview Plus… you're killing it!) What's your experience with those shady USB-C to Magsafe 2 cables/adapters? Old MacBook batteries are bound to deplete faster and faster every year, i…

Thank you! > What's your experience with those shady USB-C to Magsafe 2 cables/adapters? I don't have experience--I would probably try to get a real one. I'm also a big proponent of getting batteries replaced. I know this all costs money, but if you like and are using this computer, make it nice!

I've got this idea that third-party batteries are mostly crap and die very fast, but it's based on ≈10 year old experience (although the last official battery on my iPhone SE 2016 was the same)

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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> Don't you love how hackable everything is? Removing stock apps from the Applications folder is completely safe—nothing will break—and this is your computer, so you should make it your own. You can always restore apps later using Time Machine. Just don't delete System Preferences, or anything in the Utilities folder. This was pretty funny. “You can do anything, and you should be able to do anything, nothing will bre…

running a funky chmod command recursively on my root dir and then learning how to fix it, probably taught me more about how linux works than any tutorial or article i've ever read. have fun! break things!

Disk Utility used to have a Repair Permissions tool, at least back in the 00s. Not sure when it was removed

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Thank you! > What's your experience with those shady USB-C to Magsafe 2 cables/adapters? I don't have experience--I would probably try to get a real one. I'm also a big proponent of getting batteries replaced. I know this all costs money, but if you like and are using this computer, make it nice!

I've got this idea that third-party batteries are mostly crap and die very fast, but it's based on ≈10 year old experience (although the last official battery on my iPhone SE 2016 was the same)

I had the battery in my 2014 Macbook Air replaced by a ubreakifix in Chelsea (New York City) around two years ago, and it's still going strong.
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