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The terms of service prohibits deep linking. Here's me breaking it: https://store.app/terms Seriously though, WTF? So much for "the web always wins".
Looks like generic boilerplate ToS to me. It's still bad, but I think this is unintentional.
Is it just me that I like websites with URLs on the browser while trying to avoid Apps wherever possible, especially on the desktop? Please don’t take me the wrong way; I was the one developing apps for Pocket PC devices in the early 2000s. For instance, “Twitter” is the first featured “app” I see here at Store.App. However, when I use Twitter, I tend to click away on links and read/browse them. How are people using…
Given how toxic many mobile apps are and how a pretty significant amount of time they’re still just a web app under the hood, I think native apps have already lost the war. So like yourself, I very rarely install apps these days.
They added enough friction through ads, cookie banners, forced login to view content and more ads that I don’t care to use them anymore.
I’m using a 3rd party app to view HN and I probably visit 3-4 times a day.
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Looks like generic boilerplate ToS to me. It's still bad, but I think this is unintentional.
He's not talking about the contents of the ToS. Click the back button on the page, it takes you back here. You'd expect it to take you back to the homepage of the site. If you deeplink to that page then there's no way out other than editing the URL.
> Additionally, you agree not to, and will not assist, encourage, or enable others to: [...] Deep-link to any portion of the Services any purpose without our express written permission
The fact that the back link is broken on that very page adds yet another level of irony here though.
There is still no way to trigger an "install on homepage" dialogue from javascript, right? This seems to be the biggest limiting factor to me—The need for PWAs to include _instructions on how_ to install the app rather than a button to make it so.
Surprisingly it actually converts to "Installs" incredibly well. Better than some native apps I own. I think user friction is actually quite low - no 'web app > app store > mobile app' flow - just two buttons and its on the home screen, no need to login w/ apple id etc.
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Given how toxic many mobile apps are and how a pretty significant amount of time they’re still just a web app under the hood, I think native apps have already lost the war. So like yourself, I very rarely install apps these days.
Most quality apps are native apps, they are not just web app under the hood. Then you are either using uncommon or niche apps, or you perhaps you are on Android (Play Store is a nightmare these days). The App Store (iOS) may not be perfect but there are truly quality apps and the developers have a real incentive to maintain these, seeing that the willingness to pay for apps is high in the Apple ecosystem.
This obviously doesn’t apply to games. But even there, there’s a surprising amount you can do with HTML5 et al on iOS if you wanted.
When you also factor in Electron on the desktop, a surprise number of “native” applications these days are really just websites in a container.
The terms of service prohibits deep linking. Here's me breaking it: https://store.app/terms Seriously though, WTF? So much for "the web always wins".
Hey @presson, I signed up as dev to get my webapp listed. I stumbled upon your priced plans, and was wondering what a 'direct download link' is and why I would pay $10/month for it.
Hi! That was something experimental that we've deprecated. $10 / month gets you verified reviews and a verified badge on your developer profile. There's also some other cool stuff coming very soon. Ping me at support@store.app if you want to learn more. I can also give you a coupon if you want to take it for a test spin.
Is there a mailing list I can subscribe to for new features?
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Given how toxic many mobile apps are and how a pretty significant amount of time they’re still just a web app under the hood, I think native apps have already lost the war. So like yourself, I very rarely install apps these days.
This is the opposite for me. I used to use Twitter and Reddit constantly through 3rd party iOS apps. Both platforms banned 3rd party apps and I simply don’t use the platforms anymore. They added enough friction through ads, cookie banners, forced login to view content and more ads that I don’t care to use them anymore. I’m using a 3rd party app to view HN and I probably visit 3-4 times a day.
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He's not talking about the contents of the ToS. Click the back button on the page, it takes you back here. You'd expect it to take you back to the homepage of the site. If you deeplink to that page then there's no way out other than editing the URL.
I'm pretty sure he does. “The terms of service prohibits deep linking” is a pretty unambiguous phrase, and it is prohibited indeed: > Additionally, you agree not to, and will not assist, encourage, or enable others to: [...] Deep-link to any portion of the Services any purpose without our express written permission The fact that the back link is broken on that very page adds yet another level of irony here though.
The original Privacy and Terms links do open in a new tab so the back button is broken on the website but works when deep linked.