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Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

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Trello boards export to JSON, would you consider it open? OneNote notebooks are also an open and well-documented specification, as well as local first and backed by a very reliable company, which makes them just as open as Obsidian by those standards. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/office_file_form...

OneNote and this canvas format might be equally open and interoperable, but it's a hard claim to justify that onenote notebooks are as open as a folder of mostly standard markdown (the two exceptions being wikilinks and embeds)

I peeked at the onenote format standard [1] and the obsidian canvas standard. The difference is hilarious. The onenote standard is painfully complex, provided as a .pdf, and binary to boot. Compare to an example obsidian canvas - this is obvious, text-based (I could read it with notepad++) and easy to understand just by reading it:

  {
   "nodes":[
    {"id":"6c711bf8c24c4f5b","x":-226,"y":-62,"width":400,"height":400,"type":"file","file":"testin/2022-10-14.md"},
    {"id":"4dd7d04cdd0b379c","x":-530,"y":-209,"width":250,"height":60,"type":"text","text":"this is a note"}
   ],
   "edges":[
    {"id":"0c589a4d6bbb06aa","fromNode":"4dd7d04cdd0b379c","fromSide":"bottom","toNode":"6c711bf8c24c4f5b","toSide":"left"},
    {"id":"eda9f3edb3ec232a","fromNode":"6c711bf8c24c4f5b","fromSide":"top","toNode":"4dd7d04cdd0b379c","toSide":"right"},
    {"id":"abf404722ba48c3b","fromNode":"4dd7d04cdd0b379c","fromSide":"top","toNode":"6c711bf8c24c4f5b","toSide":"right"}
   ]
  }

[1] https://interoperability.blob.core.windows.net/files/MS-ONE/...

Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

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I can't use this for work unless I pay $50 per year, is that right? If I sign up for the Sync or Publish plans, do I still need to pay $50 per year to use it at work? Or is that included?

I don't think you would need either sync or publish at work. I haven't used canvas yet, as it's a new feature, but obsidian is a key app at work for me. Up to this point at least, it's been free :) Make a private repo, and git commit / push / pull your obsidian notes and canvases just like you would any other shared repo

A few days ago I wrote a small utility to setup cron-like timers to pull/push my Obsidian notes :-)

https://pypi.org/project/grony/

Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

#185
Is there anyone else's brain doesn't work well with canvas like mine? It looks unorganized to me with "group" and "arrow". Unlike structural design like we are used to on daily basis like "order" (left-to-right + top-to-bottom), "index" (several kind of nav). When I look at this type of canvas my brain is confused where to start, what's the order because it looks like a mesh. I guess this is for popular brains?

Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

#186

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The local first approach is the primary reason I use Obsidian. I trust that I can _depend_ on Obsidian because of this. On the other hand, this has also caused some headaches around using it on mobile.. but so far this has been a worthwhile tradeoff. Thanks for all the hard work!

Obsidian Sync is by no means cheap, but I've never used a better syncing service. I'm on my second year and can't think of a single issue I've had across laptops, desktops, an Android phone, and a Chromebook.

I can think of a number of other notes syncing that's better -- probably even Evernote's. As a happily paying Obsidian Sync customer, I'll drop some reality, so new people aren't caught off-guard.

- Obsidian Sync is pretty slow.

- Obsidian Sync doesn't happen in the background, at present. That means, if you just made a bunch of updates in Obsidian, or you haven't opened the Obsidian mobile app in a while, you're in for a wait.

- Obsidian Sync occasionally has sync errors that involve manual interaction.

That said, it's fine and the overall Obsidian experience makes it worth it (well, if you can swing a discounted price).

Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

#187

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The local first approach is the primary reason I use Obsidian. I trust that I can _depend_ on Obsidian because of this. On the other hand, this has also caused some headaches around using it on mobile.. but so far this has been a worthwhile tradeoff. Thanks for all the hard work!

Some options for syncing on mobile: Obsidian sells a first party syncing solution, which I hear works well: https://obsidian.md/sync I do git syncing on Android via termux (It works most of the time, except when git decides to shit itself every now and then on my tablet): https://forum.obsidian.md/t/guide-using-git-to-sync-your-obs... I can't vouch for it because I don't have any iOS devices new enough to support it,…

I’m using Working Copy on iOS with the setup described in the post. It’s working like a charm for me

Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

#188
post #46

While the feature itself was interesting, adding such a feature made alarm in my head. I don't think this is necessarily a good trend. Please Obsidian needs to be very, very cautious about adding such large features. I won't forget why I, and many others, gave up Evernote. It did too much, not too little.

this feature is actually related to note taking though. its not like evernote where they were off making nonsense contacts or food rating apps instead of improving their core note taking app

Re: Show HN: Obsidian Canvas – An infinite space for your ideas

#189

Any self-hosted sync options? i.e. Run my own service in docker container, and provide my own database, be it a blob storage like S3, R2, Backblaze or SQLite?

Anything you use to sync text files can work to sync an Obsidian vault. You don't need a database.

The simplest thing for a HN audience is probably "put your vault in a git repo and push to github whenever you want to sync," though that isn't real-time.

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