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Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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If you made this a Matrix client, I think you'd really have something. Using the matrix-rust-sdk, you could even get E2EE that people are requesting for free.

Big plus one. In order to encourage (what I strongly believe to be much needed) experimentation with personal messaging we have to break away from having each. new. client. establish it's own network. Otherwise competition in this field will always be limited. Matrix I believe is currently the most promising answer to this problem.

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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Very nice! Many years ago I lived in a house without a phone - the only meaningful way to communicate with faraway friends was sending and receiving paper letters via post. In many ways, that cadence was a great way to maintain relationships over many years, with minimal mental overhead. Maybe Pony should send/receive messages once a week/month, instead of daily :-)

You might enjoy https://www.futureme.org (there are others as well I see, but I think they were the first). I've used it with a few friends and myself over the last ~15 years - usually in 1-5 year increments. Whenever I receive an email, I make sure to type out a response over the next few days and send it off to be received in x years. It has always been a nice surprise receiving a "diary" entry from myself in the past, especially when I make note of current affairs... particularly in the future, past problems always seem so insignificant... and it's always surprising how often many of my plans were completely thwarted.

edit: pro-tip: type it out using your favorite editor in case your browser crashes or something!

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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Very nice! Many years ago I lived in a house without a phone - the only meaningful way to communicate with faraway friends was sending and receiving paper letters via post. In many ways, that cadence was a great way to maintain relationships over many years, with minimal mental overhead. Maybe Pony should send/receive messages once a week/month, instead of daily :-)

You might enjoy https://www.futureme.org (there are others as well I see, but I think they were the first). I've used it with a few friends and myself over the last ~15 years - usually in 1-5 year increments. Whenever I receive an email, I make sure to type out a response over the next few days and send it off to be received in x years. It has always been a nice surprise receiving a "diary" entry from myself in the p…

Interesting!

I guess this can now be done with Gmail/Superhuman/Boomerang "send later" feature as well.

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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You might enjoy https://www.futureme.org (there are others as well I see, but I think they were the first). I've used it with a few friends and myself over the last ~15 years - usually in 1-5 year increments. Whenever I receive an email, I make sure to type out a response over the next few days and send it off to be received in x years. It has always been a nice surprise receiving a "diary" entry from myself in the p…

Interesting! I guess this can now be done with Gmail/Superhuman/Boomerang "send later" feature as well.

Nice, I never even knew that existed with gmail! Probably because I never use gmail's native interface. Won't the messages always show up in gmail's draft folder though? That would eliminate a big part of the surprise ;)

I particularly like that FutureMe is a service solely dedicated to the task of sending an email in 1/3/5 years. I'm guessing infra-costs are pretty low - the site hasn't changed much in 15 years i.e. I would hope they can continue running long into the future, whereas some of these other services are at the whims (gmail excluded) of survival against a multitude of competing services and being able to continue running long into the future. A lot changes in 5 years - it feels like a lot of services from 15 years ago don't even exist anymore. Oh and a nice bonus for some people - you can allow your emails to be shown publicly (and anonymously ;)

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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post #179

The idea/term of "Outbox" really reminds me of email of the old days (in the 90s) where you have a desktop email client (e.g. Eudora, or Internet Mail and News, or even earlier versions of Outlook Express) that don't do auto-sends, and only connect to your POP3/SMTP servers when you click Send and Receive. This was probably due to internet being on dial-up and being billed by the minutes was common so users limited t…

your nick hints you fancy waiting. I like that.

But humans are herd animals after all and long to keep in touch with the herd. All the time. Like the borg. Even more so, if addiction is exploitable. You hear me, facebok.

Indeed 1x day may be much healthier, but prbly too adult to catch.

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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post #167

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Yes, that will definitely be the big challenge. I don't think we will convince everyone . Not everyone wants or needs the type of interpersonal connection that Pony is designed to support. But I think that's okay: my bet is that enough people will appreciate having the Pony option to have made it worthwhile to have built. I wanted it anyway... :) This isn't meant to replace instant communication, but to augment insta…

Love your enthusiasm :). Okay from a different angle. Im sure you have thought about this: My point was referring to the challenge of moving people away from their existing communication platforms. So I wrote down some quick ideas how to move your philosophy which many of us clearly appreciated to our current workflow. Convincing individuals to your product is something you are clearly succeeding in, but for many of…

Thanks :). I am definitely enthusiastic. That's the only way.

And for sure, it's hard to change behavior in general. It's been hard for me—and I made this product. Sometimes I send a message to someone and I'm like: "Why did I sent that instantly?" But I've been improving.

For Pony to be successful at some kind of scale, there will need to be "influencers" (aka "leaders"?) who help makes this someone of a culturally relevant movement. Finding those people and getting them on board will be a big focus of my marketing effort.

Would be interesting to see a Google implementation...

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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post #179

The idea/term of "Outbox" really reminds me of email of the old days (in the 90s) where you have a desktop email client (e.g. Eudora, or Internet Mail and News, or even earlier versions of Outlook Express) that don't do auto-sends, and only connect to your POP3/SMTP servers when you click Send and Receive. This was probably due to internet being on dial-up and being billed by the minutes was common so users limited t…

your nick hints you fancy waiting. I like that. But humans are herd animals after all and long to keep in touch with the herd. All the time. Like the borg. Even more so, if addiction is exploitable. You hear me, facebok. Indeed 1x day may be much healthier, but prbly too adult to catch.

You're totally right and tapping into the herd dynamic is really the only way to get substantial movement to happen with anything. That's why culture and society is so focused on leadership, right? My hope is that I will be able to get "influencer"-type people to help lead the way. Without that, people will continue moving in their current direction. But with leaders, I think adoption of anything is possible.

Re: Show HN: Pony – a messenger for mindful correspondence

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Very nice! Many years ago I lived in a house without a phone - the only meaningful way to communicate with faraway friends was sending and receiving paper letters via post. In many ways, that cadence was a great way to maintain relationships over many years, with minimal mental overhead. Maybe Pony should send/receive messages once a week/month, instead of daily :-)

Thank you rekoros! More delivery modes is something I am really excited to explore, especially slower ones. I think pickup/delivery should always remain once a day, but you could specify that on a given thread, messages take 3 days or 7 days, etc, to deliver. I've noticed that in my own usage of Pony, this would be pretty nice because sometimes it is the passage of time that makes a correspondence exciting and helps there be something new to say.
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