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Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by dejan »

TheGrumpyBrit wrote: post #179
dejan wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You live up to you nickname :D Sending sales emails is not the same as spam, at least not in the lines of business using Migadu. We are not judging what people do for living, but rather try to aid them with a worthy advice if there is a better way. Working hand in hand with users pays off and we both enjoy it. We're tired of being nobody to some wise Google(rs).... If sales stop, the world would stop. Everyone sells…

The grandparent post referred specfically to "sending cold emails as a direct sales tool." I'm struggling to find any way to interpret that phrase that doesn't scream "spam" to me. Sending your emails individually from Outlook to an individual you've looked up on the targets website doesn't make it any less spammy. I'm sure your approach works for the customers you have right now, but if you consider the above to be…

I see. I will take that as a great suggestion. Thank you. We will update our terms to reflect it.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by dubberx »

tombrossman wrote: post #8

This looks pretty slick and well done for having a comprehensive FAQ section and plenty of info which answered most of my questions. For me, email is the 'master key' for most of my online accounts (because password resets are done via email so if your email account is compromised an attacker can quickly leverage access to other services) and email security is top priority. I didn't see anything about using two-facto…

I, too, would like 2FA for my email account(s). So I wrote Migadu support and got a quick and reassuring reply:

We'll add 2FA in the near future. We were unaware of the great demand for it. :)

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by Whitestrake »

rovr138 wrote: post #174
matt_wulfeck wrote: post #109

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I was also discouraged to see there was no 2fa option. Email is simply too important. One of the reasons I stick with gmail is because I know Google hires some of the best security people in the world and takes it very seriously. They also support 2fa and other security measures.

On the other hand, unless you use their paid service or you know someone, you don't really have many options to get in touch with them.

Even if you're paying for G Suite, my experience has been that it's tough to get a hold of a human Googler.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by marcamillion »

TheGrumpyBrit wrote: post #162
marcamillion wrote: post #151

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I appreciate the fact that you guys made product decisions, but this statement was a little red-flag to me: > For instance, a startup of 3 would not need to send 500 emails a day, that is a clear red flag. There are many startups that do cold outreach, via cold emailing, that could do roughly 500 emails per day. I am not sure how typical this is, but as someone that has started doing sending cold emails as a direct s…

If you're sending 500 unsolicited emails a day, you're spamming. "Cold outreach" sounds very much like a nice way of saying "Spamming" to me, and I wouldn't want to share a mail server with you. For me, the bigger red flag is the response you got - I would expect a reputable mail provider to make it abundantly clear that the behaviour you describe is not welcome on their service.

I hear you. The term 'spamming' is quite subjective.

Either way, the fact of the matter is sending cold emails is actually a powerful way to build sales -- there is a simple reason so many people do it, it works.

Like it or not, many startups do it.

So I was simply pointing this out for the OP's benefit.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by TheGrumpyBrit »

marcamillion wrote: post #184
TheGrumpyBrit wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're sending 500 unsolicited emails a day, you're spamming. "Cold outreach" sounds very much like a nice way of saying "Spamming" to me, and I wouldn't want to share a mail server with you. For me, the bigger red flag is the response you got - I would expect a reputable mail provider to make it abundantly clear that the behaviour you describe is not welcome on their service.

I hear you. The term 'spamming' is quite subjective. Either way, the fact of the matter is sending cold emails is actually a powerful way to build sales -- there is a simple reason so many people do it, it works. Like it or not, many startups do it. So I was simply pointing this out for the OP's benefit.

There's an equally simple reason why they do it from botnets or hacked mail servers. It's illegal in many places, and its a great way to get your mail host blacklisted. There is no benefit whatsoever for OP to allow spamming through his service.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by rovr138 »

jonathonf wrote: post #71
intrasight wrote: post #67

Is it possible and does it make sense to migrate old emails from GMail to Migadu?

Possible, yes (`imapsync` makes it easy). Does it make sense? Depends on you.

Been migrating a few accounts using impasync. It works great for it.
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