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Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

joeyspn wrote: post #120
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're aiming for the musician market, I'm 100% sure you're wrong. There's some basic algo-comp in Logic and Ableton already. But generally, musicians really hate the idea of having a machine writing all of their music for them. This even applies to musicians who only work with loops, and to DJs who only work with complete tracks. I think there are business models for algo-comp, but this isn't the best one. I'm no…

> If you're aiming for the musician market, I'm 100% sure you're wrong. Then why at least 3 musicians in this thread have requested MIDI export? > Musicians really hate the idea of having a machine writing all of their music for them. You don't get the point. I'm not saying that all your songs should be composed by a NN. This is valuable as a starting point (phrases, chords, chord progressions, melodies, etc). Then y…

I wouldn't call a person a musician if he needs some software-generated content to jump start his creativity.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by danieltillett »

andrewfong wrote: post #72
rockarage wrote: post #31

This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

You're not considering a handful of other variables here: (1) Convenience - There's limited market demand for royalty-free music that you have to manually edit and sort through yourself. By virtue of making it simple enough for consumers (vs. professionals) to use, the market got a lot bigger. By way of comparison, you could have said that there was limited market demand for mobile apps prior to the App Store. But th…

3 could be the big one, but how do you guarantee that even algorthmic music isn't infringing given the current legal system?

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by Wingman4l7 »

modeless wrote: post #68

To me the exciting thing about automatic music composition isn't royalty-free prerecorded music, but the potential for real-time composition. Imagine a video game where your actions instantly affect the music, not just by splicing together prerecorded clips but actually by having new music composed and performed in real time. Or, somewhat more fancifully, imagine a set of headphones that play a continuous soundtrack…

This was one of the draws of the Dreamcast / PS2 game Rez; your gameplay layered sound into the base music track.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by dvirsky »

bstrong wrote: post #37
rockarage wrote: post #31

This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

Wow, that was harsh. If startups were assigned to the Deadpool based solely on whether their 1.0 products were ready to immediately disrupt billion dollar industries, there wouldn't be _any_ successful startups out there. Personally, when I see a team of people who are passionate about what they are doing create something new and interesting, I like to cheer them on. I think the technology is interesting and cool. Ev…

While it's not easy to hear, I got one such advice once on a company I started, and in true entrepreneurial spirit ignored it and kept iterating away. It was 100% spot on.

I wish people were more frank about what they think of start-ups, and I wish there was an acceptable way of doing that without insulting people.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by anentropic »

scotty79 wrote: post #47
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…

> the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop Why doesn't then Adobe own result of whatever "autofix colors" produces?

exactly

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by anentropic »

soperj wrote: post #113

It'd be interesting as a musician that often plays just by myself if I could record and upload it somewhere and have something to add accompanying music. So say a guitar track, and have an "AI" that could add drums & bass that fit the timing.

these already exist

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Post by edrex1 »

flippyhead wrote: post #185

If I take the buy the copy right option, does it mean that the AI won't ever produce the same song again? And how do you handle not occasionally producing duplicate songs when someone else enters similar settings?

@flippyhead We're working on how to ensure that duplication is impossible - but at the moment it's incredibly, incredibly unlikely!
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