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Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Chinese Netizens are very familiar with Xi Jinping's national ID number precisely for this reason :-) ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. People figured out they can just use Xi's ID number.

lol on a much lighter note, for many years I used to use 111-111-1111 as a general phone number for CVS card discounts. It stopped working several years ago though.

Lookup the stores phone number of maps. That usually works.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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I agree, the UK Police wouldn't typically let you get away with "it's just a joke". This would constitute a mixture of identity theft, fake ID and misuse of computers.

It's literally just sticking the MPs name into an AI and asking for it to generate a mock ID for them. None of their real data is being used (e.g. their face, their DoB, the address) and the mock IDs wouldn't fool anyone for a second. I'd love if someone who understands the law would weigh in though

It does use their face

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Wtf are you talking about? The Conservatives promised to reduce immigration in 2019. Instead they increased it to its highest ever levels by far, hence why they got thrown out of office. Have you ever met or spoken to a Conservative voter in your entire life?

They promised a policy (Brexit) in a form that would replace immigration from European countries with immigration from non-white countries. In fact, the Tories did NOT promise to reduce immigration. They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration: - 50,000 extra nurses (including foreign recruitment) - A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration Source:…

> They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration

> A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration

Firstly, I don't think they actually introduced one of those, did they? And secondly, how is that guaranteed to increase immigration?

The UK media and some of politicians at the time were all talking about an Australian-style points system. As someone pretty intimately acquainted with the Australian system, people (including ex-PM Teresa May) didn't seem to understand that under the Australian system -

- The government sets a minimum number of points under which you won't even be considered.

- The government set a maximum number of visas they will grant under the scheme each year

- The people with the best points are invited to apply for those visas

So with this setup the 'paper' minimum might be 65 points, but the effective threshhold is often 95 points to actually be invited to apply.

Yet in the UK the picture was painted as if you set a points threshhold and that's it, anyone with more than that gets a visa and you can't possibly control the numbers. It seemed like a total misunderstanding of the scheme.

They also said things like "And Australia has proportionally even higher migration than the UK under that scheme!", which is true, but again that's because the government has decided to set the amounts of visas at that level and sets them higher or lower, or adjusts which skills get more points, according to perceived need for skilled people. Aus has higher migration under their points scheme as a choice. The UK could have chosen to limit skilled visas under a similar program to a much lower level.

As far as I could tell, all of the articles and talking points at the time entirely ignored this.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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lol on a much lighter note, for many years I used to use 111-111-1111 as a general phone number for CVS card discounts. It stopped working several years ago though.

As a Canadian I was lost and confused when visiting the States (in the before time) and a gas pump asked for my zip code. So I put in the one and only zip code I know. I bet you can guess.

I used to use that one too, but you're supposed to put the 3 numerical digits of your postal code followed by 00. (I have no idea how you're supposed to know that though.)

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Chinese Netizens are very familiar with Xi Jinping's national ID number precisely for this reason :-) ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. People figured out they can just use Xi's ID number.

This is not true. A) personal ID numbers are not publicly available (you could certainly get your hands on some, but I doubt a lot would know Xi's ID), and B) more importantly, nowadays ID verification in China uses more sophisticated methods, e.g. in order to not be restricted when playing games, users need to prove they are over 18. The user would permit the game to verify through a payment provider such as Alipay (I don't think one would even need to give their ID to the game, as it is handled by Alipay which has done KYC already).

Although I suspect such ... "innovations" ... would soon get to the western world including UK.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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How easily can a burner be used? Are sim cards easily swapped?

> Are sim cards easily swapped? Very easily. Apple even specifically introduced dual-sim iPhone for China. > How easily can a burner be used? You need to bring your ID to a telecom to get a phone number legally. But I don't know if there is a black market for burner sims. (Last time I've been there was a few years ago so take it with a grain of salt.)

Burner sims have been a thing of the past in China for quite some time. The official rationale I believe is to curb telecom fraud, which in turn left China and started doing their business in southeast Asia.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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What a fucking mess. Labour voted in conservative policy. Conservatives voted against it. Reform, whilst all over the news for being against it, voted for it.

I think it's fun when the elected government doesn't do what the people who elected them want. Like a middle finger to democracy.

> I think it's fun when the elected government doesn't do what the people who elected them want.

I can't think of a country that does have people largely in agreement with the governments actions, lately.

Or perhaps, for any given country, one can find a collection of loud voices detailing how 'the people' disagree with what's happening. But whether they meaningfully do is hard to establish.

I imagine a lot of Brits agree with the incoming rules, whether they are effective or not. You find that here in Aus too - a lot of Australians vehemently agree with the protectionist laws, because the intent of them is to protect children. And to many of them it doesn't matter what the real outcome is, because you want to protect children don't you? And this law is to protect children, QED.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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There is no such thing as "burner". Phone number is very hard to get and requires ID verification and sorts

It's very easy to get. As a visitor, I got one in the airport for $20. "ID verification" is stretching it, but like so many things in China it requires the vendor to take a photo of your ID, and unusually also to take a photo of you and submit it to the telecom website.

Have you tried to use it to register for any website? It likely won't work.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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I'm not sure what this recent vote is about. The original Online Safety Act was introduced and passed by the Tories in 2023 (although it's only coming into effect now, obviously.) So the Tories, who created this awful bill in the first place, are now voting against it? Clown country.

Labour thought Tory version was not going far enough.

Labour appear to be talking about wanting to repeal the OSA judging by this morning's news: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/jul/29/uk-pol...
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