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Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#171

IMO comments so far seem to be not seeing the forest for the trees -- I can imagine incredible value for myself in a browser that hooks into a local LLM, writes everything it sees to a local timestamped database (oversimplification), parses and summarizes everything you interact with (again, oversimplification -- this would be tunable and scriptable), exposes Puppeteer-like functionality that is both scriptable via c…

This is basically what Microsoft wants to do with Recall and they got slammed for it. Which drives me nuts because it's the only feature from the recent AI hype wave that excites me because it's the only thing so far that sounds like it will actually make my life better. But then I thought about it a bit more and I realized that what I really want is not AI, I just want my computer to have a detailed local history and search functionality.

My computer should remember everything I did on it, period. It should remember every website I visited, exactly how far down I scrolled on each page, every thought I typed and subsequently deleted before posting... And it should have total recall! I should be able to rewind back to any point in time and track exactly what happened, because it's a computer. I already have a lossy memory of stuff that happened yesterday and that's inside my head. The whole point of having my computer remember stuff for me is that it's supposed to do it better than me.

And I want the search to be deterministic. I want to be able to input precise timestamps and include boolean operators. Yes, it would be helpful to have fuzzy matches, recommendations and a natural language processing layer too, but Lucene et al already did that acceptably well for local datasets 20+ years ago. It's great we have a common corpus, but I don't care about getting tokenized prose from the corpus, I care about the stuff I did on my own computer!

From my perspective LLMs don't bring much value on the personalized search front. The way I understand it, the nature of their encoding makes it impossible to get back the data you were actually looking for unless that data was also stored and indexed the traditional way, in which case you could have just skipped the layer of indirection and queried the source data in the first place.

I am also curious to see how all of this develops. I get a sense that the current trend of injecting LLMs everywhere is a temporary stop-gap measure used to give people the illusion of a computer that knows everything because researchers haven't yet figured out how to actually index "everything" in a performant way. But for the use case of personalized search, the computer doesn't actually need to know "everything", it only needs to know about text that was visible on-screen, plus a bit of metadata (time period, cursor position, clipboard, URL etc). If we currently still need an LLM to index that because snapshotting the actual text and throwing it into a traditional index requires too much disk space, okay, but then what's next? Because just being able to have a vague conversation about a thing I kindasorta maybe was doing yesterday is not it. Total recall is it.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to pull a "why should I use Dropbox when I have rsync" but why should we use this over adding a Playwright MCP to Claude Desktop or similar? Does having access to Chromium internals give you any super powers over connecting over the Chrome Devtools Protocol?

I would take the position of "why use this when I have eyes and hands and a brain?"

Why should I use a calculator when I can use an abacus?

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#174

IMO comments so far seem to be not seeing the forest for the trees -- I can imagine incredible value for myself in a browser that hooks into a local LLM, writes everything it sees to a local timestamped database (oversimplification), parses and summarizes everything you interact with (again, oversimplification -- this would be tunable and scriptable), exposes Puppeteer-like functionality that is both scriptable via c…

For a long time I kicked around the idea of a browser extension that archives the full text of any long webpages you spend more than 30 seconds on, for full text indexing and search.

This would be that, but even better.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#175

IMO comments so far seem to be not seeing the forest for the trees -- I can imagine incredible value for myself in a browser that hooks into a local LLM, writes everything it sees to a local timestamped database (oversimplification), parses and summarizes everything you interact with (again, oversimplification -- this would be tunable and scriptable), exposes Puppeteer-like functionality that is both scriptable via c…

This is basically what Microsoft wants to do with Recall and they got slammed for it. Which drives me nuts because it's the only feature from the recent AI hype wave that excites me because it's the only thing so far that sounds like it will actually make my life better. But then I thought about it a bit more and I realized that what I really want is not AI, I just want my computer to have a detailed local history an…

Well i mean what microsoft wanted to do was a great idea, what they delivered was bullshit and poorly executed just asking for a data leak the way it was implemented they didn't even properly vault the data lol

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#176
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This is great, I'd like to test! Is there any recommendations on which ollama models works best with this kind of tasks?

Exactly the question on my mind. I have an ongoing fantasy of a super powerful, private inference server sitting in my closet that I can throw at stuff like this.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#177
My usecase is to extract CSV or other data files from websites pertaining to water. For example here is the historical reservoir level data in South Australia[1]. Extracting the data was a big pain (at least for me with minimal front end experience). If downloading this can be automated with agents, I'm definitely giving it a shot.

[1] https://data.sa.gov.au/data/dataset/reservoir-volumes-2018

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to pull a "why should I use Dropbox when I have rsync" but why should we use this over adding a Playwright MCP to Claude Desktop or similar? Does having access to Chromium internals give you any super powers over connecting over the Chrome Devtools Protocol?

I would take the position of "why use this when I have eyes and hands and a brain?"

Why use any tool when you have bare hands bla bla...

A good place to start is think about for example if you need to copy paste info from 100 websites to put into a spread sheet for example.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#179

IMO comments so far seem to be not seeing the forest for the trees -- I can imagine incredible value for myself in a browser that hooks into a local LLM, writes everything it sees to a local timestamped database (oversimplification), parses and summarizes everything you interact with (again, oversimplification -- this would be tunable and scriptable), exposes Puppeteer-like functionality that is both scriptable via c…

This is basically what Microsoft wants to do with Recall and they got slammed for it. Which drives me nuts because it's the only feature from the recent AI hype wave that excites me because it's the only thing so far that sounds like it will actually make my life better. But then I thought about it a bit more and I realized that what I really want is not AI, I just want my computer to have a detailed local history an…

> It should remember every website I visited

I don't know about other browsers, but Safari does this. It's come in handy when I'm like "what was that site I visited two years ago?" and I can open my history and query to filter the list of pages, and there it is, January 17, 2023, yoda ate my balls retrospective

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#180

Feels like yet another solution in search of a problem. All the same, looks like y’all are having fun working on it, and maybe some unforeseen usecase will bubble up.

Problem: I want to do things but I wanna do it in one step (prompt) instead of x (or sometimes unknown upfront number of) steps, most likely dealing with shitty websitse and distractions in the process.

Try to look at it from another angle, maybe you then can see that the web is a solution looking for a problem in a way. Didn't stop it from being a massive success.

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