Why can’t people just appreciate some thing cool rather than turn every HN comment section into a controversy? I had never heard of this Ghibli controversy.
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#172Every example is the Studio Ghibli style. Tasteless and no respect for the studio and its legacy. I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it. But I guess not everyone cares as long as it might earn you a few dollars…
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness."
“Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself”
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#173Every example is the Studio Ghibli style. Tasteless and no respect for the studio and its legacy. I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it. But I guess not everyone cares as long as it might earn you a few dollars…
100% agree, what the AI “techbros” have been doing has been distasteful and downright disrespectful.
Sam Altman is also a little bitch for taunting people like that through his business ventures. First that Her actress’ voice and now this.
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#174People are complaining about using the Ghibli style, but I'm here to complain about the fact that they turn everything into generic abstractions that look nothing like the people in the original photos. Generic-cartoon-vaguely-reminiscent-of-your-family-but-not-really is a product that I'm surprised someone would be proud of.
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#175People are complaining about using the Ghibli style, but I'm here to complain about the fact that they turn everything into generic abstractions that look nothing like the people in the original photos. Generic-cartoon-vaguely-reminiscent-of-your-family-but-not-really is a product that I'm surprised someone would be proud of.
I wonder what would happen if you ghiblified images of the slop I cooked for dinner. Ghibli food always looks so good
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness."
“Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself”
Though I agree with the sentiment that Miyazaki must hate OpenAI commodifying his style, I find it so ironic that people misuse a quote of his from 2016 to be about AI generally. Another kick in the nuts for the poor guy.
He was talking about how an AI generated gruesome animation made him think of his friend awfully struggling with a disability. That people who create that kind of stuff don't understand pain and suffering.
The full quote: "Every morning, not in recent days, I see my friend who has a disability,” he said. “It’s so hard for him just to do a high five; his arm with stiff muscle can’t reach out to my hand. Now, thinking of him, I can’t watch this stuff and find it interesting.
Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself”
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
My opinion isn’t fully formed but I currently think either all content producers have a claim (potentially workable as eg a discount), or only those who contribute should get access to AI’s. And by all I mean the AI companies owe a huge debt to all humans who wrote or designed or drew anything. The vast majority of the benefit of this technology relies on volume: the billions of pages and lines of code we wrote for o…
I am following a similar mental path. I feel like the AI companies should be paying some sort of tariff on their output, going towards everyone on the planet who contributed anything at all. I don't think you can account for it more finely than that.
Yup, it feel similar to mining. The models are a transformation of the underlying content. The content is owned by “us”. A mining company can come in and transform rock into iron but it owes something to the grantors of the mining rights.
There is certainly a contribution in improving how the body of work is represented but we treat the “AI” as the smarts, when really it’s a lens on the collective knowledge we have built. You can make the lens better, bit not claim ownership of the body of work. Right now that’s what’s happening, with a few edge cases for artists and publishers.
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#178They have an api now? amazing! I have been using gemini flash but results are... less than stellar.
Yes! https://openai.com/index/image-generation-api/ I was very excited when it came out. Google have Imagen 3 (is that the same as Gemini Flash?), but you need special access to be able to edit images. I haven't tested it yet but I think it's a lot cheaper than OpenAI
imagen 3 is a standard diffusion model the new one is attached to gemini 2.0 flash experimental. model naming and working is super confusing there
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#179They have an api now? amazing! I have been using gemini flash but results are... less than stellar.
Gemini has released new models, maybe they are better. Also, I request you to expand further, why Gemini is not better?
instruction following is good most of the time, but hands are still regularly coming out garbled and there's a small percentage of failed generation in the mix. style following is also a bit hit and miss, I'm producing watecolor mostly, but every now and then a generation is photographic
site is not really ready for this, but if you want to get an idea go here https://d2uua1ig5ocnwt.cloudfront.net/ and search these:
amber ladybugs north
I manually remove failed gens, but the proces doens't scale to where I'd like if I have to manually verify images. and I have to have a few automatic rejection in the pipeline, like top border not white or image not squared.
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#180Every example is the Studio Ghibli style. Tasteless and no respect for the studio and its legacy. I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it. But I guess not everyone cares as long as it might earn you a few dollars…
> I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it.
I don't understand why you think one should feel horrible about generating images in some visual styles. What's the problem?
Demonstrably, it's not something that's generally considered protected - it's not in the laws, and I've got this impression that the request of "$artist/$studio-style art" was generally considered socially acceptable. AFAIK it's also a part of academic courses, where artists practice various styles.
Patron requests, homages, pastiches - all this stuff existed for a long while and was generally accepted (or so I think), the only difference is that a machine does it now, incredibly fast and cheap. People used to hire artists for this kind of stuff since times immemorial. Nowadays, if a machine can do a passable job, then why waste human's most valuable resource (time) for it.
It would be interesting is to hear Studio Ghibli's opinion on the matter. Not someone who thinks they might be wronged somehow (no offense meant, I do not intend to invalidate your opinion) or someone who rather thinks they might be even benefiting from this - I'm sure it's likely to be a multiple-edged sword, as life is rarely simple - but their own actual thoughts on the subject. I wonder if they already published something...