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Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

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I wonder, is this information so confidential the creator doesn't want to answer this?

I'm not sure what to answer here. Cloudflare allows this type of content, and the VPSes aren't storing the uploaded content.

Not sure what to answer? I asked where do you host it. Where do you store your data, (quite obviously) user uploaded images. That's why I asked about nsfw

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

#172

Hi! I love your product page and was wondering where you got the vector art for the core features card. I’ve been looking and can’t seem to find a good source for them

Thanks! I hired someone from Fiverr several years ago, and have been rocking with their art ever since.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

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Hi, A bit late to the thread but was wondering where you got your art for the top of the page? They’re useful little diagrams I’d love to hire person who made those

Can you please clarify which art? The mockup was done by myself. The mock images in the mockup are from Unsplash.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

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post #164

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I'm not sure what to answer here. Cloudflare allows this type of content, and the VPSes aren't storing the uploaded content.

Not sure what to answer? I asked where do you host it. Where do you store your data, (quite obviously) user uploaded images. That's why I asked about nsfw

All data is stored in the EU. As mentioned in another comment, Backblaze is the object storage provider.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

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post #73

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I have some experience helping previous jobs block bandwidth abuse from user uploaded content. That lead to inadvertently finding some pretty bad content. I would figure out some way to have someone else review the content or at least some kind of automated scanner you can use to pre-check the reported content before reviewing it yourself. Some stuff is hard to unsee. Edit: I wonder if a local LLM (to help with priva…

You absolutely have a point. But for me, I'm not sure how to balance privacy and safety. Is my service really private at all if I'm handing off user files to a third party to do who knows what to scan for bad content, and potentially risk users through false positives? Edit: A local model could work, but that can be quite compute intensive and therefore expensive.

There's no balance to be had--you must prioritize legality over privacy. You will be storing CSAM if you don't do something. You may already be storing CSAM. This is no joke. This is real and something every image hosting site deals with. You need to take it seriously. This is a "you could go to jail" concern, not a "this project might not work out" concern. The ability to store and share media privately while knowing it won't be scanned for abuse, with a free tier that doesn't even require an email address to sign up, is begging to be used for CSAM and other illegal activities. That's the sort of site you'd set up if your explicit goal was to attract CSAM. MEGA offers a similar service and they are severely burdened with abuse.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

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This is a legally...risky strategy. You built a cool thing but unfortunately when you put cool things online they get used for the worst possible purposes.

Yes, I understand there is an unfortunate risk. However, I oppose file scanning, and so do many users, as we've seen with the Apple scandal. If any content is uploaded that violates the terms of service and is reported, they will be deleted as soon as possible, and that user will almost certainly be permanently banned. The terms of service also limits my liability.

Your site offers private hosting; how do you expect reports to happen? The people sharing the CSAM won't report it; they're the ones that want to abuse your site. They'll happily share the content privately among themselves and you'll never know until the police knock on your door. A reporting-based system only works if the images are public and available in a feed so that you can "crowdsource" your moderation. It doesn't work at all--not even a little bit--when the posts are private. I urge you, strongly, to reconsider your plan here before something bad happens. I don't get the sense that you grasp the seriousness of this concern.

Your terms of service shields you from nothing. It doesn't limit your liability here at all.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

#177

This is quote nice. One of the things I've always liked about imgur is the ability to paste images from the clipboard as well as drag and drop onto the page.

Hey, dragging and dropping as well as pasting has been added. Hopefully these satisfy your needs! If not, please send me an email through the address listed on https://horizon.pics/help.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

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>Unlike Imgur, Horizon has absolutely no ads, doesn't sell your data, has built-in security and privacy controls, and is fully focused on your file sharing needs. No social media or other bloat. Why and how is your service's financial future secured? I took a quick glance, and your free tier is perfectly adequate for most people. >Horizon allows you to quickly upload and store all types of files, from images and vide…

>I could not upload anything to imgur from my phone or tablet

What devices are you using? I upload to imgur from my phone all the time. Just do it from a browser in desktop mode, you don't even have to login.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

#179
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In 2016, Imgur raised $40 million in funding from investors, valuing the company at around $500 million. In 2021, Imgur was acquired by the media company, MediaLab, for an undisclosed amount, reportedly around $200-300 million. Alan Schaaf, the CEO and founder, reportedly owned around 40% of the company at the time of the acquisition, which would have netted him a significant amount, estimated to be around $80-120 mi…

"why does everybody here think that imgur is a failure" Because what everyone on the internet wants is a place that will just friggin hold images and respond to HTTP requests with that image "in light of OP's stated goals" because op seems to want to build a sustainable business, but at a certain scale it just becomes unsustainable because you become a CDN that is paid for per-seat. So they will inevitably need to ei…

> Because what everyone on the internet wants is a place that will just friggin hold images and respond to HTTP requests with that image

But almost nobody on the internet wants to pay for anything. That’s the problem, hence all of the shenanigans around monetization.

Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur

#180
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Very clean and easy to use. 90% of my coworkers with “decades of experience” and “senior” in their titles would not even be able to build something like this in their full time. Let alone part or spare time.

Not to diminish the work of OP (the website looks really clean), but I don't think I know any serious experienced engineer who couldn't create an image sharing website

I know way too many with the title "senior" in their technical role title who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. Well, they think they know, but they are less technically competent that your average CS graduate.
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