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Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
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Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#172One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…
A big company moneygram.com use it with no problem.
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Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#173Flash was dangerous because it ran a VM and had low-level access for storage and graphics.
So it was always fighting against exploits that ruined its features.
Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always thought Flash died because Apple didn't want people to be able to write and execute arbitrary code in an app on their phones. That it posed a security risk, a stability risk, and potentially a business risk (as it could allow people to circumvent the limitations they'd imposed on, say, distribution and payments). Is that wrong?
Yes, it is wrong. Mostly. Or just some minor reason. It was largely a fallacy perpetuated by Apple. The same fallacy used to more recently justify the app store exclusivity, aimed at preserving their enclosed ecosystem under the guise of protecting users from potential malware threats. While it's true that Flash posed security risks, not just on mobile but across platforms. Acrobat pdf readers continue to grapple wit…
I'd forgotten how many they had killed off. Adobe actually ended up abandoning their Figma acquisition https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38681861
You could add Lightroom to your list of survivors.
Autodesk employed a similar acquire, absorb some features and then retire strategy, in the CAD 2D/3D space.
Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Generally, the missing features you mention were inconsequential to decision-makers (outside of some ideological devs) and many of them were being gradually addressed by Macromedia/Adobe anyway. Flash died because Microsoft was agressingly nipping at Adobe on the commercial side with Silverlight, because standard bodies were finally chipping away at its feature advantages with long-needed improvements to HTML, CS…
I'm surprised you bothered to mention SilverLight. It was Microsoft's intent, sure, but did it ever have any uptake? It's more of a curiosity or footnote than a relevant factor.
Lots of enterprise apps like ERP and that type of shit may STILL require Silverlight for older versions. It was huge in that market.
Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#176One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…
Any reference to it? I couldn't find anything about Facebook taking action on a domain ending with gram. Was your domain similar to instagram? Because telegram is still out there.
Not sure I want to post my domain but a bit of research will get you there if you want to confirm it. An Austrian news outlet wrote about the threat when I was involved.
And, I just had a look, here’s an article by someone (not me) who seemed to experience the exact same threat: https://killdozer.medium.com/facebooks-shame-o-gram-8e71106c...
Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Generally, the missing features you mention were inconsequential to decision-makers (outside of some ideological devs) and many of them were being gradually addressed by Macromedia/Adobe anyway. Flash died because Microsoft was agressingly nipping at Adobe on the commercial side with Silverlight, because standard bodies were finally chipping away at its feature advantages with long-needed improvements to HTML, CS…
I'm surprised you bothered to mention SilverLight. It was Microsoft's intent, sure, but did it ever have any uptake? It's more of a curiosity or footnote than a relevant factor.
Yeah, coming from back at that time, to consider Silverlight at all is to give it too much credit.
Jobs and his unwillingness to support it on iPhone killed Flash, and that's that.
Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#178what i miss from my childhood days is the far simpler program fantavision, which produces pretty crude results by today's standards, but which also had a very small learning curve and really let beginners experiment with the basics of vector animation. i've often wondered why there is no good analogue today.
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The replacement is CSS + JS. Thank God Apple helped kill Flash.
And 10 years later I just don't see the level of amateur uptake that flash had. For 10 years flash minted thousands of young animators and content creators. Since flashes death there are far fewer upstarts and communities despite Internet adoption being magnitudes higher
I would bet there are many more young amateur animators and content creators now than there have been 10 years ago. Their work is just more diverse than the "signature Flash animation look".
Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always thought Flash died because Apple didn't want people to be able to write and execute arbitrary code in an app on their phones. That it posed a security risk, a stability risk, and potentially a business risk (as it could allow people to circumvent the limitations they'd imposed on, say, distribution and payments). Is that wrong?
Yes, it is wrong. Mostly. Or just some minor reason. It was largely a fallacy perpetuated by Apple. The same fallacy used to more recently justify the app store exclusivity, aimed at preserving their enclosed ecosystem under the guise of protecting users from potential malware threats. While it's true that Flash posed security risks, not just on mobile but across platforms. Acrobat pdf readers continue to grapple wit…
> It was largely a fallacy perpetuated by Apple. The same fallacy used to more recently justify the app store exclusivity, aimed at preserving their enclosed ecosystem under the guise of protecting users from potential malware threats.
What was the fallacy?