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Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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Who needs to imagine it? It's here.

Cat is out of the bag.

What is the Alexa list good for? Answer: Filtering out the boring, money-grubbing commercial sites. A truly GREAT idea.

A return to the good 'ole days. The non-commercial web.

Many young people who love today's www never got to experience it as it was before it became overrun with Google-ization and auto-generated garbage.

Take the ball and run with it. We ca reclaim the web. This is only the beginning.

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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It's interesting to see popularity used as an inverse corollary with quality. Imagine a TV that skipped the most popular programming (goodbye American Idol), or a radio station that only plays non-hits. Of course, there are great websites out there that are very popular (Wikipedia, NYTimes/WSJ, StackOverflow). I'd love to see a search engine with a better signal for quality than non-popularity (this search engine), o…

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Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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post #136

It's interesting to see popularity used as an inverse corollary with quality. Imagine a TV that skipped the most popular programming (goodbye American Idol), or a radio station that only plays non-hits. Of course, there are great websites out there that are very popular (Wikipedia, NYTimes/WSJ, StackOverflow). I'd love to see a search engine with a better signal for quality than non-popularity (this search engine), o…

You have to be careful with that idea since it can still lead to poor quality. My campus's radio station (WREK Atlanta) seems to play just weird music for the sake of being weird. They never play popular music, but they rarely play any good music either.

The University of Georgia's student station has a pretty strict music philosophy that excludes popular artists. I would disagree that it results in no good music being played.

"Artists who meet any of the following criteria are automatically disqualified from airplay on WUOG 90.5FM:

The artist is or has been in regular rotation on major commercial radio stations. This does not apply to material used in specialty shows on major commercial stations.

The artist has a music video that has aired on major music video stations. This does not apply to material used in specialty shows on major commercial networks.

Another criterion that DJs must use when selecting music for airplay is its position on the Billboard Album Charts. If one of the artist’s albums has entered the top 50, then a DJ cannot play that artist."

http://wuog.org/music/philosophy/

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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It's interesting to see popularity used as an inverse corollary with quality. Imagine a TV that skipped the most popular programming (goodbye American Idol), or a radio station that only plays non-hits. Of course, there are great websites out there that are very popular (Wikipedia, NYTimes/WSJ, StackOverflow). I'd love to see a search engine with a better signal for quality than non-popularity (this search engine), o…

i've had great success playing the non-hits format on college radio for years now, theres always great interest in what hasnt bubbled to the surface by force of popularity.

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

#176

And of course, W3Schools still manages to show up, thanks to their multiple crazy subdomains: http://cl.ly/GFup

Your're right. We strip www from the domains. We need a better function to rip out the domain from a URL. Just haven't had time to cook one up yet.

Try out http://publicsuffix.org/ - that plus a custom suffix list of overrides works wonders!

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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post #18

I'd really like to see randomization instead. Return results picked randomly from within the top 10 million or something.

Randomization is a good idea. Give everyone a fair change kind of thing maybe? reply

I need predictability... but make it optional, maybe a check-box with a key shortcut (the `R` I suggest).

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

#178

This is a cool search engine for discovery, but it defeats the purpose when you are looking for a location. Do a search for "facebook", you will not get any result that links you to facebook.com .

I've seen people do this a few times, and don't understand why they do it (Google 'facebook' or 'twitter' and then click the link to get to the site instead of typing 'facebook.com' or 'twitter.com' into the address bar). Can you explain why? I'm truly curious.

Couple reasons I've encountered..

1. User doesn't understand the WWW. They believe Google is THE gateway to everything internet.

2. User doesn't know (or has trouble typing) the exact address. Google tends to have the authoritative result first for popular sites like facebook, amazon, twitter..

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The technology is trivial, but the reasons behind it and philosophy that drives it aren't. Google isn't going to come along and say, "oh, guys, you're right...Wave, Buzz, Google+ all a mistake. Social Graph..Mistake!. We're sorry. We are rolling everything back to 2004" Google has been increasingly more frustrating for power users over the last couple of years. People are looking for alternatives. DDG is one, this is…

Ah, I was unaware of the !g bang syntax, that's a great one. I'm also fond of !archwiki, and all the language bangs. DuckDuckGo is the only search engine that I know of that could take over a significant portion of search traffic. By significant I don't mean tens of millions, but I mean a dedicated userbase who use it in leue of Google.

Just out of curiosity, what does DuckDuckGo do that conventional keyword searches in Firefox or Chrome don't do?

Re: Show HN: Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen people do this a few times, and don't understand why they do it (Google 'facebook' or 'twitter' and then click the link to get to the site instead of typing 'facebook.com' or 'twitter.com' into the address bar). Can you explain why? I'm truly curious.

Couple reasons I've encountered.. 1. User doesn't understand the WWW. They believe Google is THE gateway to everything internet. 2. User doesn't know (or has trouble typing) the exact address. Google tends to have the authoritative result first for popular sites like facebook, amazon, twitter..

I also often don't know the exact address, but browsers autocomplete URL for me. I think it's a fair bet those who search for Facebook already visited Facebook. Why search then?
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