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Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

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>People in this thread are way overly negative. That's most of HN these days, and why I never visit anymore.

For someone who doesn't visit, you are a pretty active participant

wah? He has commented 9 times in the last three months, you have commented 9 times in the last three hours. If he is active, what are you?

Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

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People in this thread are way overly negative. I understand this tool as something to be used for prototyping and locally-only but everyone is jumping on how insecure it is or how it's got a bunch of dependencies, or it's just express, etc. None of that matters if you aren't exposing this to the internet. This is a really neat project that lets you play with something right away and a lot of you all are bashing the a…

The website gives the impression of a polished product. It doesn’t come across as a POC. Therefore I think the security concerns are valid. Someone is bound to build something with this, get users and get hacked otherwise.

Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

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For someone who doesn't visit, you are a pretty active participant

wah? He has commented 9 times in the last three months, you have commented 9 times in the last three hours. If he is active, what are you?

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Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

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Looking through the code on github found a .py file handler in the works: https://github.com/remoteinterview/zero/blob/master/packages... Any idea of a timeline on this feature? I think it could be really awesome to be able to prototype with python in addition to js.

The js part (React, MDX, Node) is almost complete. I will put out a basic handler for python ASAP if that's going to be useful to you :)

Reframe author here (https://github.com/reframejs/reframe).

This is super interesting, what are you plans regarding this? Super curious.

Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

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> With that said, what do you make of the point that things that are clearly not suitable for production (and sometimes labeled accordingly) have a nasty habit of making their way into production anyway? Do you think it has salience here? You're clearly a thoughtful person with your hear in the right place, so I'd very much like to hear your opinion. I don't think I have a good answer. I'm currently serving a little…

As you so correctly and wisely point out, we take all kinds of risks every day. It's an inherent part of life. Yet we also generally accept that things that can be done in a safer way should be when reasonably possible. At this point I'm leaning towards deprecating the idea that encouragement, positivity, and documentation will lead to developers making good decisions. As you've demonstrated, it's clearly insufficien…

Your conclusion seems to eschew the "honey" for? "Vinegar"? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just trying to figure out what this would look like.

Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

#177

People in this thread are way overly negative. I understand this tool as something to be used for prototyping and locally-only but everyone is jumping on how insecure it is or how it's got a bunch of dependencies, or it's just express, etc. None of that matters if you aren't exposing this to the internet. This is a really neat project that lets you play with something right away and a lot of you all are bashing the a…

I agree with you about the over-negativity, but I have to disagree about the value of the "security nightmare" comments. Nowhere on the marketing page (that I saw) does it say, "prototype/development use only!" In fact I got the opposite impression. It seems to want to be a new framework. It's critically important to surface security issues early and often. There's already a cultural anti-pattern in the js world of j…

The thing's brand spanking new, that's the biggest sign for "prototype/development use only!"

Re: Show HN: Zero – A fast, zero-configuration server for React, Node.js, Markdown

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post #170

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As you so correctly and wisely point out, we take all kinds of risks every day. It's an inherent part of life. Yet we also generally accept that things that can be done in a safer way should be when reasonably possible. At this point I'm leaning towards deprecating the idea that encouragement, positivity, and documentation will lead to developers making good decisions. As you've demonstrated, it's clearly insufficien…

Your conclusion seems to eschew the "honey" for? "Vinegar"? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just trying to figure out what this would look like.

Some might imagine it as eschewing heedless amateurism in favor of mature professionalism.

One starting point might be re-examining if all the negativity shown in reaction to Zero Server is actually excessive. Some of it surely is! It's also perhaps possible that some of it could be viewed as the horrified reactions of professionals who care about quality (and think about downstream effects) coming face-to-face with reckless engineering.

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