Does this product fix coworkers who don't know how/when to thread, never-ending questions that are answered by documentation they could have read, and a complete refusal by people with authority to make decisions in a documented channel? Oh, turns out my gripes with slack are more about the people using it.
Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
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Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine. It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.
Can I download Teams without it also requiring Microsoft updaters and other stuff that insists on lurking in the background? Having a standalone MS app is fine, but I will never allow their updaters and background processes.
The Microsoft AutoUpdate tool is fully configurable so long as your organization doesn’t have any specific forced configurations.
You can uncheck automatically update and install.
You can decide whether or not to run the background service at all at the OS level.
This is a really strange hill to die on because your OS and other programs already have similar functionality, you are just saying no to Microsoft specifically. Chrome runs a background process to stay up to date, for example.
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#163Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
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History of Google text/voice/video chat is frankly insane, they refuse to just have a product and develop it, instead every few years the new thing pops up and the old thing gets deprecated. They should've been dominating the space for near 2 decades now. Instead they had Google Talk (that even worked over XMPP!) then replaced it with google hangouts, and then Google Chat.
And each iteration is basically worse. XMPP should be able to be a Slack replacement. Hangouts was a proprietary reimplementation, that had most of the features in an awkward way. Group chat in columns wasn't a great idea but was fine on mobile. Duo/Chat was weird, separation of communication for no great benefit, and wasn't really any better than Hangouts. More like Hangouts that they had given to an intern to fix u…
And don't forget Google Wave that did the whole "chat integrated with various multimedia elements" decade before the competition (and arguably, better, coz those could be interactive elements not previews of websites and embedded media)
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
And each iteration is basically worse. XMPP should be able to be a Slack replacement. Hangouts was a proprietary reimplementation, that had most of the features in an awkward way. Group chat in columns wasn't a great idea but was fine on mobile. Duo/Chat was weird, separation of communication for no great benefit, and wasn't really any better than Hangouts. More like Hangouts that they had given to an intern to fix u…
And don't forget Google Wave that did the whole "chat integrated with various multimedia elements" decade before the competition (and arguably, better, coz those could be interactive elements not previews of websites and embedded media)
I never actually used Wave. I didn't understand it, and by the time I was going to try it was shutdown.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave
Apparently it was generally available for 3 months. Probably why I missed it.
I didn't try Buzz either.
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
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I didn’t read the full site but it seems they’re not really going for those users? Anyone who has dozens of custom workflows and apps in their Slack is probably spending 10s of thousands of dollars on Slack. It is probably vital to their business. This seems like it’s for small teams (like 3-5 people even, collaborating daily) who get rekt really fast before they’re forced to spend $60 a month.
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How are you doing search?
Can you discuss the tech stack choices? (ie. OpenSearch, something else?)
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Screw teams. I had a meeting on teams for the first time ever so I decided to use safari, my designated un touched browser on my mac, to use teams in order to maximize compatibility. The thing kept shutting off my webcam every two seconds. I’d turn it on then it would shut off two seconds later. We switched to zoom for the remainder of the meeting. Google’s offering isn’t much better either. I tried the same thing, g…
If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine. It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.
Why can’t they make a working webapp for one of the largest browsers in the world? It isn’t like I tried to use Opera…
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m very puzzled by Google chat to be honest. It’s a massive missing piece in the Google workspace toolchest. Teams is the central place for companies on Microsoft, and arguably the most sticky part of the MS cloud productivity stack. So it can’t be lost on Google how important it is to have something here. Google slides, docs, sheets are fantastic products, but Google chat is so clunky and awkward that it seems hard…
Really? Teams is the most sticky? Teams sucks. Excel and PowerPoint are the most sticky parts, and Teams just comes bundled with those.
I mostly meant sticky as in the most touched surface for day to day usage. Maybe sticky is not the right word.
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#169The value prop sounds solid, but on the homepage I really missed seeing the product. Screenshots or a short demo video showing how the UI looks and how the UX works would help a lot.
I felt like a baker was selling me "delicious pastries" but with the tray covered. I want to see what I am getting before signing up!
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your costs will change and shift over time. Personally, I don't trust anything that says "Free Forever" or "Unlimited". Give a real limit and figure out the transition. "Free now, and no plans to change, but if it does, we will give you one year to transition" is much more confidence building then "Free forever".
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Google was already fairly profitable when Gmail was started, and did a considerable amount of capacity planning.
It was also invite-only for a loooong time.