Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by bdangubic » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 8:06 PM UTC

RobGR wrote: post #154

bdangubic wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It would be hard to detect completely AI hallucinated articles, without a possibility to check the authenticity of the content. you can check in a public library or https://google.com

An automated system was already made to collect and sort them, that system should provide it's sources. I can self-fact-check anything, but a system that could provide origin sources and didn't is just AI slop.

If human-generated content like this did not provide source would that be called “human slop”? what about system automated by a human coder without help of AI, also “human slop”?

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by xp84 » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

cyberax wrote: post #105

Aeolun wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, the big problem in this whole thing is assymetrical nature of the thing. The Israelli military is a military funded and shaped by the US one, and it’s a mammoth in all the ways that matter. Hamas, after years of being supressed, is a group of militants with handguns. The Isrealli response to those terrorist with guns killing and abducting some of their people, was to flatten and impose collective punishment on th…

The thing with Gaza is that HAMAS there had 20 years of unlimited power, wholly funded by the UN/US/Qatar aid. Gaza literally has no other significant income streams. HAMAS spent this time to build a network of tunnels below the streets, and to stockpile ammo/explosives. They could care less about the people, using them only as human shields. They also actively brainwashed the population: https://www.ynetnews.com/mag…

Not to mention that as soon as the IDF pulled out, Hamas immediately started dragging Palestinians out into the streets and publicly executing them for “collaboration” crimes real or imagined. The #1 killer of Palestinians is Hamas itself.

It’s pure cowardice that they fight the way they do, mixing all their military equipment with civilian infrastructure like hospitals and schools, and they rely on propagandizing gullible Western liberals (as well as anti-semites) to get support for their murderous cause.

There is no way to fight them that doesn’t endanger civilians. And there’s no way for Israeli Jews to continue breathing without fighting Hamas. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is living in a fantasy.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by tehjoker » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 8:32 PM UTC

This is really cool, but the tone about not feeling urgency is weird. These are monumental events worth studying and reviewing and reading these headlines even today feels like an adrenaline rush. All of this is still relevant for understanding our world.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by tehjoker » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 8:36 PM UTC

qntmfred wrote: post #78

delis-thumbs-7e wrote: post #55

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With that same logic me objecting to Iraq War I supported Saddam’s terror regime. Just because you think Israel actions are bloody genocidal war crimes does not mean that Hamas terror is justified or that some guy in a wheel chair should be killed. Yes, there is some young people who seem to get all of their information from social media and have absolutely no understanding of what is happening - they support Hamas,…

do you have any suggestions for those who want to understand what this conflict feels for a regular Israeli just trying to live or Israelis 40 years ago today or 75 years ago or Palestinian Jews 100 years ago etc

Here’s a good starting point for learning about the situation:

“Our Genocide” by an israeli human rights organization https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide

This book too:

“The 100 Years War on Palestine” by Rashid Khalidi https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Years-War-Palestine-Coloniali...

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by tolerance » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 9:00 PM UTC

There’s something eerie about this whole submission. From the preamble, the uninspired layout, the barely-functional page; all AI-tinted. It appears that the events that are displayed indeed happened but their accounts are virtually forged. Some of the details attributed to them cannot even be freely verified. [1]

The background that’s alleged to have inspired this may not have even taken place. And if it at all did then I reckon it ought to inspire further dread. You get the intellectual simulation of “Big Events” with as much fog present as is in news today! And the onset of the end begins to feel like a 40-year-long screaming halt to civilization as you knew it!

This bites!

[1]: Take this link to what I believe is the source for the story on The Order member Mark Franklin Jones’s testimony for example https://newspaperarchive.com/walla-walla-union-bulletin-nov-... (Hacker News does not allow images in comments so I can not point to the replication of the story on forty.news).

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by jrm4 » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 9:23 PM UTC

skylurk wrote: post #108

jrm4 wrote: post #101

Wow. Given that I was around (though young) for that and still mostly forgot about it, I imagine "Star Wars," as a reference to the US/USSR missile thing is probably mostly COMPLETELY unknown to the youngsters?

TIL. Who was who?

It didn't even go that deep, as I recall. Just a weird name they attached to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by ebbi » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 9:44 PM UTC

troupo wrote: post #127

Aeolun wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, the big problem in this whole thing is assymetrical nature of the thing. The Israelli military is a military funded and shaped by the US one, and it’s a mammoth in all the ways that matter. Hamas, after years of being supressed, is a group of militants with handguns. The Isrealli response to those terrorist with guns killing and abducting some of their people, was to flatten and impose collective punishment on th…

> Hamas, after years of being supressed, is a group of militants with handguns. I can't believe people still peddle this bullshit. Hamas are a well organised and a well-funded terrorist organisation that is also the governing body in Gaza. So anything from "back alley" support from Iran to fingers in hundreds of millions in yearly humanitarian aid. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas had total funding near the same leve…

I'm assuming that bit you're quoting 'militants with handguns' was hyperbolic, but it serves its purpose to compare and contrast the two.

How much damage has those Russian and Iranian built rockets done in Israel? How many tanks do Hamas have? How many fighter jets do Hamas have? How many nuclear weapons do Hamas have?

The fact is, Hamas is a product of being a military in a territory that is subject to blockade by Israel. You can say Israel left Gaza in [insert year], but the fact of the matter is that a blockade has been there up to now.

And so if Hamas was a democratically elected government of Gaza, with the opportunity of becoming a 'Singapore' of the Middle East and having full agency (as Israel claims), why is it outside the bounds of reasonableness that they do acquire weapons from Russia and Iran, just like any other country in the world does for their own military needs?

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by ebbi » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 9:47 PM UTC

xp84 wrote: post #162

cyberax wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing with Gaza is that HAMAS there had 20 years of unlimited power, wholly funded by the UN/US/Qatar aid. Gaza literally has no other significant income streams. HAMAS spent this time to build a network of tunnels below the streets, and to stockpile ammo/explosives. They could care less about the people, using them only as human shields. They also actively brainwashed the population: https://www.ynetnews.com/mag…

Not to mention that as soon as the IDF pulled out, Hamas immediately started dragging Palestinians out into the streets and publicly executing them for “collaboration” crimes real or imagined. The #1 killer of Palestinians is Hamas itself. It’s pure cowardice that they fight the way they do, mixing all their military equipment with civilian infrastructure like hospitals and schools, and they rely on propagandizing gu…

They executed them due to treason, a law that the USA also has.

The number of Palestinians executed is far less than those killed by Israeli aggression. Don't minimize the war crimes of Israel.

How far is the IDF office from civilian infrastructure?

Your comment reeks of propaganda - or severe misinformation at the least.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by troupo » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

ebbi wrote: post #167

troupo wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hamas, after years of being supressed, is a group of militants with handguns. I can't believe people still peddle this bullshit. Hamas are a well organised and a well-funded terrorist organisation that is also the governing body in Gaza. So anything from "back alley" support from Iran to fingers in hundreds of millions in yearly humanitarian aid. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas had total funding near the same leve…

I'm assuming that bit you're quoting 'militants with handguns' was hyperbolic, but it serves its purpose to compare and contrast the two. How much damage has those Russian and Iranian built rockets done in Israel? How many tanks do Hamas have? How many fighter jets do Hamas have? How many nuclear weapons do Hamas have? The fact is, Hamas is a product of being a military in a territory that is subject to blockade by I…

> How much damage has those Russian and Iranian built rockets done in Israel?

Enough for Israel to build Iron Dome. Iron Dome literally exists because these "poor militants with handguns" were firing hundreds of rockets per month at targets in Israel. From Wikipedia:

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In January 2008 the border between Gaza and Egypt was breached by Hamas. It allowed them to bring in Russian and Iranian-made rockets with a larger range. In the first half of 2008, the number of attacks rose sharply, consistently totaling several hundred per month.

--- end quote ---

The rest of your message is a non-sequitur on top of non-sequitur.

Hamas is not, and never has been "militants with handguns". They are, and have always been, a well organised organisation with huge funding.

Agan. Wikipedia.

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Hamas has reportedly accumulated over $12 million per month from taxes on goods imported from Egypt into Gaza as of 2021. Iran provides some $100 million annually to Hamas and other Palestinian groups

--- end quote ---

These are just some estimates. Actual numbers are likely to be significantly higher.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by sillyfluke » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 10:30 PM UTC

JuniperMesos wrote: post #27

> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

I'm trying to wrap my head around coming to this bizarre conclusion from these two news items that are 40 years apart. It is incredibly difficult to come to anywhere close to similar conclusion when considering it with any seriousness.

Ok, so I'm squinting my eyes and trying to imagine...Ok, so I'm an American in the 1940s just reading a news article about the discovery of extermination camps in Germany by allied forces. They just discovered these camps and they don't know yet quite how many people were killed. WW2 has just ended, information is just coming out, slowly. Incidentally I also subscribed to a magazine that prints daily news from 28-30 years ago and I coincidentally also just read, in a news items from 1915-1917, that some group of people calling themselves Zionists, whatever that means, killed a Swedish anthropologist in Palestine who was living with a Arab tribe that was being harrased by the group when attempting to intercede on the tribe's behalf.

And I'm supposed to think what exactly from these two tidbits of information? That Jews seem to have been on this violent chosen people gambit for a quite a long time and that the Nazis had a point?

Or maybe instead of answering that you can just ask the one in three Jews in New York who voted a pro-palestinian mayor into office why they didn't know any better. New York, incidentally a city that supposedly only rivals Tel Aviv in the number of Jewish residents residing in it.