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Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by _yb2s »

closewith wrote: post #159
_yb2s wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, so in the USA slightly under half end in divorce, but I’d argue that the vast majority of ones that don’t are miserable and if ended both would be better off- the tragedy isn’t the divorces but the even more common unhappily married. I say that as someone that is in a happy long term relationship after many hard won lessons, but I see that a lot of people are not… but could be if they either left or learned som…

The world is not the US and US divorce rates are anomalous globally. You cannot generalise from such outliers. You have an extremely warped view of relationships.

I’m not talking about relationships globally, but in the USA. I’m not sure why you would expect anyone to have global rather than local personal experience. However, in places where divorce rates are low, I wonder if it’s because people are happier and relationships are working, or if it is just legally and culturally more difficult to escape a bad relationship?

What specifically is warped about my view of relationships?

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by red-iron-pine »

wojrem wrote: post #141

How do you plan to monetize the app? Subscription seems to me won't work well because the churn rate of such app will be quite high (folks will play few weeks and learn basic "quests"). Using data is very controversial as can be seen in comments - also not sure how to monetize it well.

aye, same question. what's to stop me from buying it for a few weeks / couple months, running through a few ideas, and then ditching it?

put another way, what value does this have over a static html page of "150 cute date ideas" from Elle or Cosmo that I could just cut out and pull out of a hat?

searching for "cute date ideas" gets me to Marie Claire with "80 Fun date ideas for when you're tired of a Dinner and a Movie". And with the fashion mags, if I pay them money I get plenty of other stuff that's not date ideas, and won't datamine me (as hard)

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by closewith »

_yb2s wrote: post #161
closewith wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world is not the US and US divorce rates are anomalous globally. You cannot generalise from such outliers. You have an extremely warped view of relationships.

I’m not talking about relationships globally, but in the USA. I’m not sure why you would expect anyone to have global rather than local personal experience. However, in places where divorce rates are low, I wonder if it’s because people are happier and relationships are working, or if it is just legally and culturally more difficult to escape a bad relationship? What specifically is warped about my view of relationsh…

The app is not limited to the US, hence the absurdity of your comment.

> What specifically is warped about my view of relationships?

The idea that you are somehow more enlightened in your relationships while the majority of people wallow in misery is absurdly arrogant, bordering on delusional and narcissistic.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by popcalc »

neilv wrote: post #107

Quoting ` https://www.lovefuel.app/team `: > PAS - Personality Assesment system > In cooperation with neuropsychologists, couples therapists, and psychologists, we have developed DIREBP. (Dyadic interpersonal romantic emotional behavior profiles). > Each user has one DIREBP, and it represents you and your personal profile inside of the PAS. The DIREBP represent you measures of psychological personality descriptors. I…

It would be wise to assume the goal is to sell it along with the company at a later point to a data broker.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by popcalc »

Joakim_Habekost wrote: post #135
pjerem wrote: post #63

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What is this again ? You mean that you are not GDPR compliant for an app that generates random phrases ? It feels like there is something shady.

Yes its GDPR compliant. Our team has simply never made one of the Apple Appstore Required Encryption documents, and due to that we decided to be on the safe side, and therefore wait with France untill tuesday next week when we can get help with it.

Trust me, you don't need any of that.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by [deleted] »

closewith wrote: post #159
_yb2s wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, so in the USA slightly under half end in divorce, but I’d argue that the vast majority of ones that don’t are miserable and if ended both would be better off- the tragedy isn’t the divorces but the even more common unhappily married. I say that as someone that is in a happy long term relationship after many hard won lessons, but I see that a lot of people are not… but could be if they either left or learned som…

The world is not the US and US divorce rates are anomalous globally. You cannot generalise from such outliers. You have an extremely warped view of relationships.

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Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by _yb2s »

closewith wrote: post #163
_yb2s wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not talking about relationships globally, but in the USA. I’m not sure why you would expect anyone to have global rather than local personal experience. However, in places where divorce rates are low, I wonder if it’s because people are happier and relationships are working, or if it is just legally and culturally more difficult to escape a bad relationship? What specifically is warped about my view of relationsh…

The app is not limited to the US, hence the absurdity of your comment. > What specifically is warped about my view of relationships? The idea that you are somehow more enlightened in your relationships while the majority of people wallow in misery is absurdly arrogant, bordering on delusional and narcissistic.

So the idea that there are skills that can be learned to improve relationships is fundamentally nonsense to you, without any curiosity or knowledge on your part about what specifically they might even be?

Calling someone delusional and narcissistic because they have a different viewpoint from you is a pretty tiring modern trend on the internet… it certainly lowers the quality, friendliness, and usefulness of a conversation. Ironically, that is itself a narcissistic conversation tactic, where you aren’t trying to understand or communicate but to make it appear that anyone who disagrees with you has an egregious personality flaw.

I have met plenty of people with actual narcissistic personality disorder, and the most common theme is an underlying inability to admit fault or work towards improving things like relationships- an inability to do what I am claiming here to be working on myself to improve my own relationships, and an aggressive dismissal of the idea that such things are possible when it is mentioned by other people. It requires admitting fault and being vulnerable and human enough to take responsibility and work to improve things.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by Joakim_Habekost »

popcalc wrote: post #164
neilv wrote: post #107

Quoting ` https://www.lovefuel.app/team `: > PAS - Personality Assesment system > In cooperation with neuropsychologists, couples therapists, and psychologists, we have developed DIREBP. (Dyadic interpersonal romantic emotional behavior profiles). > Each user has one DIREBP, and it represents you and your personal profile inside of the PAS. The DIREBP represent you measures of psychological personality descriptors. I…

It would be wise to assume the goal is to sell it along with the company at a later point to a data broker.

Hi. Thank you for the question. + this comment? 1. Never sell it. See text in the post. I know this is normal in the US, but way less so where I/we are from in Scandinavia. There's a fair mistrust given the norms in other countries, but as said in the post, I would rather abandon the project then start selling the data. 2. The data of the personality profiles gets processed anonymously. You as a user cannot even access the anonymous-results directly, there's an encrypted service in between the data-points, fetching only select data. 3. Everything is encrypted, on device, from device to servers, and on servers.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by Joakim_Habekost »

popcalc wrote: post #165
Joakim_Habekost wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes its GDPR compliant. Our team has simply never made one of the Apple Appstore Required Encryption documents, and due to that we decided to be on the safe side, and therefore wait with France untill tuesday next week when we can get help with it.

Trust me, you don't need any of that.

Can you tell me more? I am funded by The Danish Innovation Foundation, and so I always remain on the safe side, as recommended. It sounds like you have experience with this, do you have any good resources I perhaps can read or anything alike? :)

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by nozzlegear »

outop wrote: post #117
citizenkeen wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two or three times a year, I schedule a dozen emails to my wife. Just little missives that say something sweet that I appreciate about her. I spread them out over the next few months, so she gets little reminders from me that say I love you. When I’m staring down a long, busy day and she looks run down, I schedule an email a few hours later to say “Hope your day is going well, you’re awesome and I’m grateful to have…

Not sure if you are disagreeing with my comment but I don't see any contradiction. You are showing your wife that you are thinking about her and that you care about her wellbeing. The fact that there's a time lag between the moment you think about her and the moment she gets the message, isn't an issue.

Why isn't "downloading an app to help us have a more unpredictable romantic relationship" also thinking about her and caring about her wellbeing?
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