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Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #154
LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #151

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Why not using this instead? Too slow? https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls/ No issues with any archive-sites. Aside from not being censored at all, thereby enabling visiting sites which are blocked at DNS-level in some locations, there are several options for adblocking at DNS-level, too. Often eliminating the need for a Proxy or VPN to get access, with optional Adblock as a service. For free.…

What do you mean why not? The point is just to use anything other than cloudflare for archive.is, and mullvad is not cloudflare, so seems fine, go ahead. There is no special reason not to use cloudflare dns in general though. The problem is only between cloudflare and archive.is (and it's aliases) and it's hard to say if either side is wrong, except for the fact that either or both of them could figure out some speci…

Yes. I know. It's just that I had these problems too, when I used cf. Which I tried for speed, and some 'lawful' censoring reasons. Thereby running into the exact same problem.

Then I tried Mullvad-DNS, the speed was still there, the 'lawful' censoring was gone, the problems with archive-sites ceased to exist, and somewhat configurable adblocking-as-a-service.

It's a seamless 'plugin'-solution, not degrading anything.

Triple-A!

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by godelski »

fragmede wrote: post #160
godelski wrote: post #158

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There's a few links in sibling comments. But basically they are collecting some identifying data to try to optimize load times, but if they don't get that data they just reject the request instead of allowing for longer load times. Archive promises that they throw away that data and aren't tracking users but I mean why rely on trust? And as others point out, there are weird aspects of the code too so even if you trus…

that's the story Cloudflare wants you to buy. Archive is intentionally violating copyright, and needs to know which country you're coming from, so they can serve you content from a country that isn't yours. they need that information to protect the service and keep it running.

I definitely am not buying that, especially since it isn't just Cloudflare users being affected, including Quad9, or the wiki[1] which claims the issue was resolved. Note that I can't reach them from cloudflare or even with mullvad's DNS. Not giving me faith tbh. See the linked thread and the links from there for more info[0]. And I trust Cloudflare way more than one guy who users are having difficulties with answering emails[2]. Sure, maybe he gets too many and is only one person, but that gives me less faith that things are being done correctly. Or see weird comments from this hn thread[3]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38171524

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#Cloudflare_DNS_a...

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/12trawt/has_an...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37009598

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by quickthrower2 »

muttled wrote: post #156
quickthrower2 wrote: post #147

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Can’t be that simple. What if TOS has ridiculous shit in it. Stuff about life long servitude to the webmasters pet goldfish, for example?

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

Link to a story like that?

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by qingcharles »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #163
muttled wrote: post #156

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Believe it or not, straight to jail.

Link to a story like that?

(720 ILCS 5/17-51) (was 720 ILCS 5/16D-3) Sec. 17-51. Computer tampering. (a) A person commits computer tampering when he or she knowingly and without the authorization of a computer's owner or in excess of the authority granted to him or her: (1) Accesses or causes to be accessed a computer or any part thereof, a computer network, or a program or data;

    (a-10) For purposes of subsection (a), accessing a computer network is deemed to be with the authorization of a computer's owner if:
        (1) the owner authorizes patrons, customers, or guests to access the computer network and the person accessing the computer network is an authorized patron, customer, or guest and complies with all terms or conditions for use of the computer network that are imposed by the owner;
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