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Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Post by [deleted] »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #110
dragonwriter wrote: post #96

Gratuitous images by each story, slow enough to load that it benefits from a cutesy loading spinner, cookies for tailored marketing, email signup box after the 10th story, fat banner that uses the hamburger menu icon but doesn’t trust it to be communicative enough so also has “Menu” in text on the button... That’s...not a Hacker News for X.

I agree with your larger point but in a different way — Hacker News is not defined by UI, but community. I’m sure that there is a Hacker News for auto out there already, I’d guess it’s a myBB forum.

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Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Post by systemvoltage »

onion2k wrote: post #158
systemvoltage wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN design and its spartan interface is an overwhelmingly and the primary reason for its success (of course content, people, moderation, etc as well). If it were a phpBB board, or a discourse forum, it just wouldn't be the same. People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit. The inflection point is always design, 2008 when they messed up the Digg UX with…

People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. What this website looks like, how fast it loads, and how simple it is are not reasons to post here. People post to contribute their thoughts to the community. There are people here who we want to discuss things with. There are topics we're interested in that we have opinions about. We each want to be seen to be curious or knowledgeable about tech thin…

You’re right and good points, the key point of argument is whether good design attracts the community in the first place (that’s my stance) vs. community is sustained since design is good (your point).

Hmm... these things are hard to tell. I’ll give you my personal motivation to stay here and that’s unquestionably the design. I never got hooked on Slashdot because that site was an eye sore (sorry!).

Usually, good design fades in the background when it’s good. So we give the credit to other things.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

#163

Post by KingMachiavelli »

ivan1783 wrote: post #159

Does not seem to contain much "industry" news but rather "consumer" news. I am in industry and working on those cars, they are done and off of my desk 2 years before the public even sees them, its all just history for me...Industry news should talk about things like the current µ-chip shortage, sales, regulations, engineering, etc.

What site do you actually use for auto industry? I find that outside of technology and specifically software - everything is just consumer news and detail-less blurbs. It would be fascinating to read the HN equivalent of another topic.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Post by chrisandchris »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #110
dragonwriter wrote: post #96

Gratuitous images by each story, slow enough to load that it benefits from a cutesy loading spinner, cookies for tailored marketing, email signup box after the 10th story, fat banner that uses the hamburger menu icon but doesn’t trust it to be communicative enough so also has “Menu” in text on the button... That’s...not a Hacker News for X.

I agree with your larger point but in a different way — Hacker News is not defined by UI, but community. I’m sure that there is a Hacker News for auto out there already, I’d guess it’s a myBB forum.

Not true at all. A huge part of HN is - as others mentioned - that is‘s so lightweight and the UI is so clean.

There are a lot of people here that have slower bandwith than a pigeon, and they are very very happy that the HN staff tries to save every bit and byte.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Post by wingerlang »

systemvoltage wrote: post #153
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your larger point but in a different way — Hacker News is not defined by UI, but community. I’m sure that there is a Hacker News for auto out there already, I’d guess it’s a myBB forum.

HN design and its spartan interface is an overwhelmingly and the primary reason for its success (of course content, people, moderation, etc as well). If it were a phpBB board, or a discourse forum, it just wouldn't be the same. People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit. The inflection point is always design, 2008 when they messed up the Digg UX with…

> We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit.

Digg collapsed sure, but where does the Reddit exodus come from? Even IF they had people leave because of the design (which I doubt would be significant numbers) it would not be remotely comparable to Digg.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Post by benhurmarcel »

dragonwriter wrote: post #96

Gratuitous images by each story, slow enough to load that it benefits from a cutesy loading spinner, cookies for tailored marketing, email signup box after the 10th story, fat banner that uses the hamburger menu icon but doesn’t trust it to be communicative enough so also has “Menu” in text on the button... That’s...not a Hacker News for X.

Also I don't trust for a second that posts could have a thousand votes and no comment. The first impression is that the points are faked.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

#168

Post by shandor »

onion2k wrote: post #158
systemvoltage wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN design and its spartan interface is an overwhelmingly and the primary reason for its success (of course content, people, moderation, etc as well). If it were a phpBB board, or a discourse forum, it just wouldn't be the same. People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit. The inflection point is always design, 2008 when they messed up the Digg UX with…

People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. What this website looks like, how fast it loads, and how simple it is are not reasons to post here. People post to contribute their thoughts to the community. There are people here who we want to discuss things with. There are topics we're interested in that we have opinions about. We each want to be seen to be curious or knowledgeable about tech thin…

I agree-disagree.

I agree that the main appeal of HN is undoubtedly the community. There's no other place where you can be exposed to so many no-bullshit comments and submissions from so many people so deeply embedded in the industry.

However, I disagree that the design has nothing to do with it. I think the spartan design keeps the appeal of HN low for those who don't fully appreciate the value the community itself brings. Case in point, many people who post here are also probably on Twitter and/or Facebook. But Twitter and FB knowingly pursue such directions in their UI and UX and overall service design that having anything like HN on those platforms is all but impossible.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

#169

Post by [deleted] »

wingerlang wrote: post #165
systemvoltage wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN design and its spartan interface is an overwhelmingly and the primary reason for its success (of course content, people, moderation, etc as well). If it were a phpBB board, or a discourse forum, it just wouldn't be the same. People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit. The inflection point is always design, 2008 when they messed up the Digg UX with…

> We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit. Digg collapsed sure, but where does the Reddit exodus come from? Even IF they had people leave because of the design (which I doubt would be significant numbers) it would not be remotely comparable to Digg.

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Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

#170

Post by nl »

systemvoltage wrote: post #153
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your larger point but in a different way — Hacker News is not defined by UI, but community. I’m sure that there is a Hacker News for auto out there already, I’d guess it’s a myBB forum.

HN design and its spartan interface is an overwhelmingly and the primary reason for its success (of course content, people, moderation, etc as well). If it were a phpBB board, or a discourse forum, it just wouldn't be the same. People are addicted to this site for its usability and simplicity. We've seen mass exodus from Digg and Reddit. The inflection point is always design, 2008 when they messed up the Digg UX with…

HN design sucks on mobile.

It's lazy that simple afforances to make it easy to use on mobile devices haven't been implemented.

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