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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Arnt »

Arnt wrote: post #151
lucideer wrote: post #150

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> I don't count that as a bug, it's merely a situation where one has to choose disadvantages. There's no line in the IMAP spec. that very explicitly states "each mail MUST exist in exactly one folder", so you can certainly argue that Gmail technically follows the spec. but the only reason that line doesn't exist is because doing otherwise is so non-sensical as to not have been considered as a possibility. It does for…

I don't see the phrase "MUST exist" anywhere in 3501? I see the word "exactly" in two sentences, neither of which appears to be the one you mean. Can you provide a reference? I don't want to argue about the disadvantages of flags vs. mailboxes. It's a valid subject but I don't want a subject change.

That was stupid. Should not post while in a noisy environment.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by [deleted] »

lifeformed wrote: post #123
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82

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I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Is there some kind of "SaaS in a box" setup where I can just have all my web apps like mail, photos, storage, repos, etc hosted on AWS or something, in one place, under my control?

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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by [deleted] »

lifeformed wrote: post #123
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Is there some kind of "SaaS in a box" setup where I can just have all my web apps like mail, photos, storage, repos, etc hosted on AWS or something, in one place, under my control?

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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Arnt »

michaelmior wrote: post #37
Arnt wrote: post #30

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You might be more frustrated if they'd done it the other way; IMAP clients have a terrible habit of downloading the entire mailbox. If they were to expose all mail in one mailbox with flags as the usual case, users with such clients and a lot of mail would suffer .

I'm sure that's true, but I assume that many of these clients either wouldn't have been written this way or would have adapted by now if Gmail did things differently.

Possible. But until those changes are done and deployed, users on mobile connections would do gigabyte-sized downloads and Google's servers would suffer. If a lot of clients do SELECT * FROM *, the DBA will complain a lot until it stops, one way or another.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches; it must have been a nasty choice to make.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by andrew_ »

tyingq wrote: post #10
andrew_ wrote: post #5

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I've uploaded a screenshot here: https://imgur.com/VaNpYhq . And I'll be updating the README in a few with a screenshot. I've been plugging at this set of CSS for about a month now. And you'd think the classNames would change, but they're nearly identical to the old. Very few changes between the old look and the new. Speculating, I'd say that Google killed the old, classic theme so they didn't have to maintain CSS fo…

Making it a standalone chrome extension might be helpful, then your css changes over time will auto-update. Edit: I went ahead and made one, did a quick test by loading it unpacked, seems to work. https://github.com/tyingq/gmail-classic All yours if you want it.

Extension has been published. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gmail-classic-them.... Cheers!

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by zapzupnz »

jayalpha wrote: post #135
chongli wrote: post #113

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Yes! I'm using WinAmp 2.95 right now! I run it through Wine and it works perfectly on my Linux PC and my MBP running Mojave. I make it a point to use native apps (which I lump Wine into, since it's not running in the browser) these days. I'm deeply skeptical of the cloud. The whole point seems to be to get us to rent the things we used to own. And if we're not paying the rental fees out of our wallet, then we're payi…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMMS2 ?

XMMS 2 or Audacious or Beep, all work well as WinAmp replacements — provided one doesn't rely on WinAmp-specific plugins which are the joy of WinAmp.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by gbear605 »

mehrdadn wrote: post #142
gbear605 wrote: post #44

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15 seconds to load interface, 5 seconds to mail and reply. Mac, Google Chrome, Firefox, or Safari, 22MB/s download/upload, 2.9Ghz cpu running nothing else.

Is it the same speed in Guest Mode (no extensions)?

The only extensions I have are my password manager, an RSS feed manager, Vue.js dev tools, and Reddit Enhancement Suite, none of which should impact loading times on gmail.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by mehrdadn »

gbear605 wrote: post #167
mehrdadn wrote: post #142

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Is it the same speed in Guest Mode (no extensions)?

The only extensions I have are my password manager, an RSS feed manager, Vue.js dev tools, and Reddit Enhancement Suite, none of which should impact loading times on gmail.

I'm not familiar with those particular extensions, but if this is your general reaction based on how heavyweight you think an extension is, you may be in for a surprise. An extension (like a password manager) loading something like jQuery for every iframe easily slows down a site like Gmail by a few seconds. Instead of guessing, I recommend using the Performance tab of the browser console (click the "Start Profiling and Reload Page" button) along with the call tree (group by subdomain) to see where most of the time is being spent.

Also, Guest & Incognito seem to be intrinsically faster for some reason even compared to an entirely fresh profile, so you may want to compare against an empty profile instead.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by m-p-3 »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82
pixelrevision wrote: post #46

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Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

I wish I could, be the business I work for is on G Suite.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Izkata »

mattnewton wrote: post #20
vbezhenar wrote: post #17

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3 seconds to load interface, almost instant transitions to mail and reply. Windows, Google Chrome.

I suspect this has more to do with network speed than platform or browser time spent parsing / executing js.

Watching what's going on onscreen, for me, it appears to be Hangouts blocking functionality until it finishes loading, and Hangouts takes the longest of anything else.
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