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Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by exDM69 »

AnneDev wrote: post #141
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #106

I have some thoughts for you as someone who's done this before. I used to run a file hosting site called MediaCrush with a buddy of mine. It was moderately successful, but we ended up shutting it down. I later switched to a file host called pomf.se, which eventually was shut down as well. I wrote a blog post that sums up my thoughts on public file hosting: On the profitability of image hosting websites - https://drew…

I think that in the end, the way to really address these issues is with WebTorrent or a similar service. When you're online, you should be: 1. contributing your own bandwidth to the images you upload 2. contribute your own bandwidth to the images you look at. If you look at an image, maybe you should be required to seed it twice over. If you upload your image, maybe you have to seed it at least 10 times for it to sta…

Although the idea is great but I'm not comfortable with the legal implications of "seeding" the stuff I view. It might work in some legislations but I'd be putting myself in too much risk under my local law.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by exDM69 »

NoFile wrote: post #135
oron wrote: post #91

I'm operating DropJar.om and I can say it's a big headache. For some reason I keep getting DMCA notices from all kinds of lawyers and the occasional take down notice from police when ISIS videos are uploaded there. No income and tons of complaints. http://dropjar.com

If we receive valid content removal request through our contact form then we will have to take the content down. Judging by your username - is there a connection between you and the infamous file hosting site Oron that closed down a few year ago?

> If we receive valid content removal request through our contact form then we will have to take the content down.

Have you considered how much takedown requests you will get if your site becomes popular? It could be hundreds to thousands per day (some ex file hosters ITT could tell how much).

You'll need a whole lot of premium customers to cover the costs of reviewing the takeodowns.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by BuuQu9hu »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #106

I have some thoughts for you as someone who's done this before. I used to run a file hosting site called MediaCrush with a buddy of mine. It was moderately successful, but we ended up shutting it down. I later switched to a file host called pomf.se, which eventually was shut down as well. I wrote a blog post that sums up my thoughts on public file hosting: On the profitability of image hosting websites - https://drew…

The problem is one of capabilities; unrestricted image hosts delegate too much power to uploaders. An uploader should not be able to create a valid URL with any data under the hoster's domain.

In addition to what's been mentioned, another possibility is to force users to bring their own domains to the table when doing hosting; the user is free to host things from the service at their own domain, and the hoster's domains remain distinct and untainted.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by jacquesm »

I give it a week or two before it gets shut down because of the inability to deal with uploads of child porn and other disgusting stuff.

Best of luck anyway, and good luck dealing with law enforcement. Make sure you put some text on the front page indicating that you will collaborate with LE and it might save you from a little bit of bad stuff.

I ran something like this for a couple of years and shut it down because I was tired of dealing with the filth.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by sullivanmatt »

I see 16 bytes of hex after the anchor slug for the encryption feature, e.g. for 'https://nofile.io/f/86JiUNYM6QK#5827800f46cef978', the key is '5827800f46cef978'.

The key is absolutely does not contain enough entropy, because your key material is only comprised of the ascii-printable hex chars converted into a byte value. So instead of a byte having 256 different possibilities, a byte now will only be one of 16 values. Bruteforcing these keys would be incredibly trivial. To decode the hex into actually random key material, you would have needed to do something like hexToBytes("5827800f46cef978"), which would yield a correctly random byte array of [88, 39, 128, 15, 70, 206, 249, 120]. Note that this is half the proper key size required for AES-128.

I also want to echo the concerns already voiced by others in saying that key material needs to be generated from a strong random provider, and not just from the hash of the file.

I say this in the interest of privacy of those who might use your service, so please don't take any offense: please disable the encryption feature entirely until you can get assistance from someone with extensive experience in implementing crypto, because as it exists now, the implementation is fatally flawed.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by Nullabillity »

Kudos wrote: post #154
Nullabillity wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it might be a cultural thing, but it seemed pretty obvious to me that it's something in the style of Mediafire/RapidShare/Hostr, before they all went to crap.

Err, Hostr founder here. Not sure if I'm happy that it was mentioned, or sad that it went to crap :P

To crap was a bit exaggerated, sorry. :P

Localhostr was great for a while for just uploading stuff without needing to bother with accounts or RapidShare's wait-a-minute-or-pay thing. It makes sense why you scaled back the free version (I can imagine that these services quickly get expensive to run..) and started requiring accounts. But personally that's the point where it was roughly equally annoying to upload to Hostr and my own server, and so the latter just made more sense for me personally.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by nwellinghoff »

NoFile wrote: post #60
joelennon wrote: post #53

Nice work, looks like an interesting project. I do think your site copy could do with some work though. It's not entirely clear from the current text what the service actually is - is it for sharing files with others, is it a Dropbox competitor or is it an S3 competitor? The following phrase made me feel a little uncomfortable about using the product. "How can this be a free service? Magic. In the future a paid servi…

Dropbox and S3 are too far from us right now and I wouldn't call them competitors. NoFile is a simple tool that allows you to quickly share files with lots of options, nearly no limitations and at the same time as you don't have to sign in. "I'd rephrase this - definitely remove the shouldn't as that tells me that while my files shouldn't be deleted, they might be." You're right about that as the premium plan will ne…

"NoFile is a simple tool that allows you to quickly share files with lots of options, nearly no limitations and at the same time as you don't have to sign in"

put that on the top of your page!

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by ourcat »

calvinbhai wrote: post #56

I have a tough time trusting a new service where I cannot figure out where this business is located / registered, where they have a physical presence, the person/team who built this service. Having more details in an About Us section would help it look more legit.

Exactly this.
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