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Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#161
> Don't be a free user.

Now that's just rude. Not even the linked article [0] manages to convince otherwise. In fact, it even shows the opposite standpoint:

> If your free software project suddenly gets popular, you gain resources: testers, developers and people willing to pitch in. If your free website takes off, you lose resources.

If you don't want users to use it for free, don't offer it for free, but don't insult your users.

[0] https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/12/don_t_be_a_free_user/

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#163
post #61

I just did a blind purchase. Partly because I hate osx finder that much, partly because I want to support people who ask the right price for their products, and partly because it was the right time;I like to get up early tomorrow and install something new. And who knows, it might even replace my xplorer2 ( http://zabkat.com/ ) on Windows..

Can people even explain why they hate Finder, or is it just a fashionable bandwagon to jump on? While I do prefer Path Finder [1] for file-heavy workflows, Finder is perfectly usable with a few tweaks here and there: - Get TinkerTool [2] to show hidden and system files, pathname in the window title etc. - Tweak and create your own keyboard shortcuts for Finder in System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> App Sho…

Even if it was perfect in every other way, littering .DS_Store files all over the place would still make Finder an abomination. And thanks to the joys of version control, users on other platforms can enjoy some of the pain if you forget to add a Mac-specific .gitignore entry. And the frustrating part is that per-directory view settings are a feature I wish didn't exist in the first place...I would prefer that when I changed those settings, it applied to all directories.

I have other annoyances, but that's the reason I hate Finder.

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#164
post #61

I just did a blind purchase. Partly because I hate osx finder that much, partly because I want to support people who ask the right price for their products, and partly because it was the right time;I like to get up early tomorrow and install something new. And who knows, it might even replace my xplorer2 ( http://zabkat.com/ ) on Windows..

Can people even explain why they hate Finder, or is it just a fashionable bandwagon to jump on? While I do prefer Path Finder [1] for file-heavy workflows, Finder is perfectly usable with a few tweaks here and there: - Get TinkerTool [2] to show hidden and system files, pathname in the window title etc. - Tweak and create your own keyboard shortcuts for Finder in System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> App Sho…

> - Get TinkerTool [2] to show hidden and system files, pathname in the window title etc.

You probably already know this, but just in case - starting from Sierra, you can display/hide hidden files in Finder with Shift+Ctrl+. (dot)

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are still using Windows then Far Manager [1] is an amazing Norton Commander-like open source file manager with lots of available plug-ins. I miss it in Linux, although Midnight Commander is not bad too (which I'm using now in Linux). [1] https://farmanager.com/

Double Commander is a decent OSS cross-platform GUI implementation of the same 'commander' interface

I've just tried it - configuring FTP links is more cumbersome and less reliable than in FAR, so I'll pass on it tight now. After all, what counts is how much time you can save using the right tools.

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use ls, cp, mv in a shell. I don't get file managers.

A fuzzy matcher for changing directories would be kinda cool though. I wonder if someone has worked on that.

There are many. I use https://github.com/clvv/fasd which is quite simple an unintrusive. I often type things like "z s" and end up in the right place =P

There's also https://github.com/junegunn/fzf/ for a more "graphical" method.

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#168

It's an interesting project, clearly stemming from scratching one's personal itch. Congrats on the Show HN, always an exciting experience :) A bit of a reality check though if you don't mind - I think you will have very hard time selling this. Windows chunk of your target audience will undoubtedly be already using Far and its many plugins, and thus have very little reason for switching. Conversely, those not familiar…

I've "bought" a lot of free software through donations, and even bought the Windows version of LR to use through Wine.

Can't afford to buy GNU Parallel yet though.

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#169
post #145

Glad I looked inside the .deb file before I installed this. It does the following things: - Adds `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/fman.list - Adds `/etc/cron.daily/fman`, which does this: #!/bin/sh update-fman The `/usr/bin/update-fman` script does this: #!/bin/sh set -e apt-get update -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist="/etc/apt/sources.list.d/fman.list" -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts="-" -o APT::Get::List-Cleanup="0" apt-get install --only…

This behaviour is described on the home page [1]. Sorry it's not to your liking. fman's features are prioritised according to the number of votes they receive on a public Trello board [2]. There's a card for making it possible to disable automatic updates [3]. The intention is obviously not for it to come back when you delete it. If you remove it in the same way you installed it (via the package manager), then the fi…

> This behaviour is described on the home page.

This should be a big, fat warning with a clear description on how to install your package without the root cronjob. And that warning should appear right on the front site, not just some sub site.

> Sorry it's not to your liking.

This is not about personal taste. This is about violating well-established best practices that have very good reasons to exist.

Running custom scripts as root, and especially adding custom cronjobs as root, should only be done if absolutely required for the tool to perform its task at all, e.g. for tools like logrotate.

Everything else is a violation of trust, and thus a no-go for package maintainers.

If a user wants daily updates, they configure the APT or Synaptic accordingly. It is the decision of the user, preferably for the whole system, at a time convenient for them. This is certainly not the decision of a single package maintainer.

Keep in mind that many people choose a Free Software distribution like Debian because they developed an aversion to uninvited extra code running on their machine. Why? Because this is what was forced on them by their old proprietary operating system.

Re: Show HN: fman – file manager for programmers

#170
post #130

This isn't something I'm likely to use (I'm a command line person), so take any suggestions from me with a grain of salt. But ... Most GUI file managers show a popup menu when you right-click on an item. fman doesn't. I'm sure the keyboard shortcuts are fine once you've memorized them, but a good right-click menu would be useful for casual users. Also, Ctrl-Shift-P shows a list of keyboard shortcuts, but it seems to…

You're right. I simply haven't had time to implement this. Features are prioritised according to the number of votes they receive on a public Trello board [1]. There's a card for implementing a proper context menu [2].

Regarding Ctrl-Shift-P: I've created a card for this [3]. You can vote on it to have it moved up in priority.

[1]: https://trello.com/b/WpIUiPAd/fman

[2]: https://trello.com/c/wHX5czeT/22-make-it-possible-to-open-fi...

[3]: https://trello.com/c/PhdT0G7v/144-ctrl-shift-p-allow-to-beco...

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