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Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by techpression »

mchaver wrote: post #129
_zoltan_ wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There should never have been an "artisan era". We use computers to solve problems. You should have always getting stuff done instead of bikeshedding over nitty-gritty details, like when in the office people have been spending weeks on optimizing code... just to have the exact same output, exact same time, but now "nicer". You get paid to get stuff done, period.

> There should never have been an "artisan era". Firm no. There should be and there will continue to be. Maybe for you all code is business/money-making code, but that is not true for everyone. > We use computers to solve problems. We can use computers for lots of things like having fun, making art, and even creating problems for other people. > You get paid to get stuff done, period. That is a strange assumption. Pl…

And to add to this, good artisanal code usually means it runs a lot faster, which means saving money and energy, and those are good things.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by pawelduda »

nialse wrote: post #89
jimminyx wrote: post #28

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OP here. Appreciate your perspective but I don't really accept the framing, which feels like it's implying that I've been caught out for writing and coding with AI. I don't make any attempt to hide it. Nearly every commit message says "Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.5". You correctly pointed out that there were some AI smells in the writing, so I removed them, just like I correct typos, and the writing is now better.…

”I don't care deeply about this code. It's not a masterpiece. It's functional code that is very useful to me.” - AI software engineering in a nutshell. Leaving the human artisan era of code behind. Function over form. Substance over style. Getting stuff done.

I too miss gathering 20 devs in the same room and debating company-wide linter rules. AI ruined the craft \s

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by lxgr »

mchaver wrote: post #129
_zoltan_ wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There should never have been an "artisan era". We use computers to solve problems. You should have always getting stuff done instead of bikeshedding over nitty-gritty details, like when in the office people have been spending weeks on optimizing code... just to have the exact same output, exact same time, but now "nicer". You get paid to get stuff done, period.

> There should never have been an "artisan era". Firm no. There should be and there will continue to be. Maybe for you all code is business/money-making code, but that is not true for everyone. > We use computers to solve problems. We can use computers for lots of things like having fun, making art, and even creating problems for other people. > You get paid to get stuff done, period. That is a strange assumption. Pl…

I think you're both right. There's a time and place for beautifully crafted code, but there's also a place for a hot mess that barely passes its own non-existing tests, and for anything in between.

Just don't bring an artisan to a slop fight.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by anavat »

anavat wrote: post #87
redfloatplane wrote: post #36

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Hey, you do you, I’m glad you appreciate my perspective. I wasn’t trying to catch you out but I see how it came across that way - I apologise for my edit, I had hoped the ;) would show that I meant it in jest rather than in meanness but I shouldn’t have added it in the first place. As I said in my comment, no shade for writing the code with Claude. I do it too, every day. I wasn’t “irked” by the readme, and I did rea…

There needs to be a word for the feeling of sudden realization that you're reading an AI-generated text (or watching an AI-generated video) where you expected it to be human-authored.

Okay, I'm gonna shoot myself, "ensloped" it is.

"I find your email deeply ensloping."

"This marketing campaign is going to enslope a lot of people."

"Feeling ensloped, I closed Instagram and looked out the window".

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by 7thpower »

jimminyx wrote: post #28
redfloatplane wrote: post #13

I think these days if I’m going to be actively promoting code I’ve created (with Claude, no shade for that), I’ll make sure to write the documentation, or at the very least the readme, by hand. The smell of LLM from the docs of any project puts me off even when I like the idea of the project itself, as in this case. It’s hard to describe why - maybe it feels like if you care enough to promote it, you should care to t…

OP here. Appreciate your perspective but I don't really accept the framing, which feels like it's implying that I've been caught out for writing and coding with AI. I don't make any attempt to hide it. Nearly every commit message says "Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.5". You correctly pointed out that there were some AI smells in the writing, so I removed them, just like I correct typos, and the writing is now better.…

So you created a project, implicitly to help individuals keep their computers and credentials secure, but you can’t be bothered to proofread a read me?

I get using AI, I do all day everyday day it feels like, but this comes off as not having respect for others time.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by written-beyond »

retired wrote: post #154

I looked at Clawdbot. Perhaps my life is so boring that managing it takes little time but I see zero reasons to run it.

I read your comment, then your username. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS USERNAME WAS CLAIMED 14 DAYS AGO! Good catch!

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by furyofantares »

MrJohz wrote: post #139
furyofantares wrote: post #73

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The problem with LLM-written is that I run into so many README.md's where it's clear the author barely read the thing they're expecting me to read and it's got errors that waste my time and energy. I don't mind it if I have good reason to believe the author actually read the docs, but that's hard to know from someone I don't know on the internet. So I actually really appreciate if you are editing the docs to make the…

I think the other aspect is that if the README feels autogenerated without proper review, then my assumption is that the code is autogenerated without proper review as well. And I think that's fine for some things, but if I'm looking at a repo and trying to figure out if it's likely to work, then a lack of proper review is a big signal that the tool is probably going to fall apart pretty quickly if I try and do somet…

I agree with that also.

I use this stuff heavily and I have some libraries I use that are very effective for me that I have fully vibed into existence. But I would NOT subject someone else to them, I am confident they are full of holes once you use them any differently than I do.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by JoBrad »

anavat wrote: post #156
anavat wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There needs to be a word for the feeling of sudden realization that you're reading an AI-generated text (or watching an AI-generated video) where you expected it to be human-authored.

Okay, I'm gonna shoot myself, "ensloped" it is. "I find your email deeply ensloping." "This marketing campaign is going to enslope a lot of people." "Feeling ensloped, I closed Instagram and looked out the window".

That’s pronounced “slope” or “slope”? ;)
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