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Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by sureglymop »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #43
sureglymop wrote: post #23

This is great. I want this but for much more. I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I press. I want a record of everything I do in the digital world that is searc…

I think Microsoft has some kind of product that can help you Recall what you were working on?

Well, I can rationally evaluate their product/idea. Their idea itself for that product is fairly interesting which is why I propose a solution one can actually host and control oneself. I don't see why I would need Microsoft to do that for me. It is I who creates the data after all.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by sureglymop »

endless-r0ad wrote: post #125
sureglymop wrote: post #23

This is great. I want this but for much more. I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I press. I want a record of everything I do in the digital world that is searc…

"I'm not interested in creating surveillance software or technology." That is exactly what you would be doing though

To surveil... myself?

It's interesting to read such a comment here. I see comments from people on this site frequently who work for Google, Facebook, OpenAI and other such companies where everyday software that doesn't respect users or their privacy is being worked on.

However, if I suggest doing similar data collection and analysis that they already do but in a way that is self hostable/governable and respects my privacy and threat model, it is bad?

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by mholt »

slightwinder wrote: post #139
mholt wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Interesting. But this seems to be limited to the supported data-sources? Data sources are extensible, they basically just need to implement 2 methods: https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/timelinize/timelinize@v0.0.24/... > No generic format to build your own sources? I'm designing an import API that will let any script or program push data to the timeline. > Also, why the focus on a timeline? Seemed to make the most sens…

> Probably true. Do you have examples of what you're thinking of? Bookmarks, contacts, notes for example, they are usually not time-based but by context, category or whichever organization their usage demands at the moment. They can be time-based in a journal, but usually I do not remember websites or people by the time I encountered them, so I would not search them this way. The other question is how personal is per…

Bookmarks are bookmarked at a specific time.

Contacts are already handled as first-class concepts in Timelinize, known as "entities". Entities don't have timestamps, but they have a name and attributes that can be anything, and the relationship between the entity and its attributes can be bounded by time.

Notes are also created and updated/changed at specific times.

> Are my IMDB-ratings valid data for this? My Ebook-collection? My Steam-account? Those are usually things I would not manage in a timeline or a map, but with different interfaces and features.

Could be, if you wanted to timeline those! (Like, when you rated a certain movie. Or when you got or read a certain book. Or when you got a new Steam game.)

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by mholt »

infogulch wrote: post #147
mholt wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad you like Caddy! > How does this handle data updating / fixing? In the advanced import settings, you can customize what makes an item unique or a duplicate. You can also configure how to handle duplicates. By default, duplicates are skipped. But they can also be updated, and you can customize what gets updated and which of the two values to keep. But yes, updates do run an UPDATE query, so they're irreversible. I…

Have you heard of XTDB / Bitemporality? The basic idea is to make time 2-dimensional, where each record has both a System Time range and a Valid Time range. Designed as a write-only db with full auditability for compliance purposes. With 2D time you can ask complex questions about what you knew when, with simpler questions automatically extended into a question about the current time. Like: "What is the price?" -> "W…

Yeah, I did actually pursue this for a time (heh), but I might revisit it later. It was too much complexity for debateable value-add, though the value is growing on me.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by sureglymop »

LelouBil wrote: post #68
mholt wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. Sounds in-scope so far. Long-term, perhaps, and maybe optional add-on features rather than built-in, but we'll see. > I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I pr…

I feel like nextcloud replacement is out of scope ? I mostly felt like Timelize was about being *behind* data-generating applications and showing and cross-referencing their data when reading the website. I think the way is to do some sort of nextcloud extension that puts data into Timeline. I also saw it tracks "documents" on the website but I didn't try it yet, and I would hope it can use external document sources…

I also should have mentioned in my comment that I only host nextcloud for myself and my family.

That may be more realistic and in scope than how nextcloud actually supports entire orgs/organizational units.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by mholt »

iamleppert wrote: post #137

This is just some feedback. But when including product shots on your web site, at least don't use real user data where you have to blur most of the content. It looks tacky and unprofessional.

On the contrary, I think it's even better to use real data instead of fake data. Using fake data looks tacky and unprofessional.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by fivestones »

michaelterryio wrote: post #74
sureglymop wrote: post #23

This is great. I want this but for much more. I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I press. I want a record of everything I do in the digital world that is searc…

I can never find it now, but someone had an idea for a computing system which was purely temporal for every object and then you'd only access outside of temporal by filter. I wish I could find it again.

Maybe Lifestreams? https://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/freeman/ericchi96.html

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by ketzu »

mholt wrote: post #149
ketzu wrote: post #146

I wanted to give it a try, unfortuantely I fail already at the first screen. Selection a location the backend fails at creating the timeline: "error": "opening database: pinging database file: invalid uri authority: D%5CMy%20Timeline%5Ctimeline.db_foreign_keys=on&_journal_mode=wal&_txlock=immediate&mode=rwc" It seems it is trying to parse windows file paths as URIs, and thrown off by the ":" in windows file paths.

Just fixed that. Thanks. You can download the latest CI artifact for the patch (the link is on the Install page in the docs).

Thanks a lot, I wasn't really sure if reporting here or on github would be faster, I'll try to report on github in the future!

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by iamleppert »

mholt wrote: post #156
iamleppert wrote: post #137

This is just some feedback. But when including product shots on your web site, at least don't use real user data where you have to blur most of the content. It looks tacky and unprofessional.

On the contrary, I think it's even better to use real data instead of fake data. Using fake data looks tacky and unprofessional.

So you'd prefer to look a screenshot where half of the content is blurred out?

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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Post by [deleted] »

mholt wrote: post #154
infogulch wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you heard of XTDB / Bitemporality? The basic idea is to make time 2-dimensional, where each record has both a System Time range and a Valid Time range. Designed as a write-only db with full auditability for compliance purposes. With 2D time you can ask complex questions about what you knew when, with simpler questions automatically extended into a question about the current time. Like: "What is the price?" -> "W…

Yeah, I did actually pursue this for a time (heh), but I might revisit it later. It was too much complexity for debateable value-add, though the value is growing on me.

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