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Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by WillAdams »

frumplestlatz wrote: post #92
WillAdams wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One notable standout here was 10.6 which was simply 10.5 recompiled for native Intel and dropping PowerPC support --- that said, for early 10.x each version consistently became more performant up through 10.5, it's just that 10.6 was the version where that was the _raison d'être_.

10.6 was absolutely not 10.5 recompiled. It was entirely a reliability and bug fix release on top of 10.5.

Poor choice of word on my part/missing "re-written" and that it was reliability/bug fixes/removing PPC stuff was what I was trying to convey.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by xattt »

socalgal2 wrote: post #134
latexr wrote: post #26

> Don't you love how hackable everything is? Removing stock apps from the Applications folder is completely safe—nothing will break—and this is your computer, so you should make it your own. You can always restore apps later using Time Machine. Just don't delete System Preferences, or anything in the Utilities folder. This was pretty funny. “You can do anything, and you should be able to do anything, nothing will bre…

> I feel much safer telling people to “just try stuff” when I know there isn’t a risk of them breaking everything and being left with an unbootable machine On which non-mobile OS is this true? It's certainly NOT safe on Mac/Windows/Linux to "just try stuff". I can trivially delete all of your data and/or upload all your .ssh files and Documents by "just try it"

I’ve found a big performance boost by running:

    sudo rm -rf /

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

saagarjha wrote: post #144
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Google majorly screwed up, in a piece of software that runs with administrator privileges! Why the heck was it running with those privileges in the first place?! It's kind of nuts that Google faced basically no blow-back for rendering people's systems unbootable. The Chrome updater could also have had a bug that completely deletes your home directory, and SIP wouldn't protect you. I guess your computer would…

It is trivial to escalate to root and then do precisely that when SIP is disabled.

That's because more recently Apple introduced an entitlement to make that trivial, right? I wish they hadn't done that.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

h4ck_th3_pl4n3t wrote: post #132
brewmarche wrote: post #9

The MacBook Air mentioned (2014) will install Mavericks when booted into recovery mode anyway (unless you use Option-Command-R which will give you the newest compatible version which is Big Sur). I did that a few days ago and I agree, it’s quite snappy! Missing certificates can also be installed manually (e.g. from the curl CA bundle), but even then TLS 1.3 support is lacking in most apps which breaks a lot of stuff…

Regarding SSL: just make sure you are using macOS 10.9.3, earlier versions (all of them, and I mean, all since the 80s) never had a working SSL implementation. For more, read about the GOTO FAIL bug: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2014-1266

It's pretty hard to install anything below 10.9.5, Apple updated all the installers to go straight to that version.

But if you're using Aqua Proxy, you're not really using the system's SSL implementation anyway, you're using Go 1.19's SSL.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

zapzupnz wrote: post #150
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, Tiger is cool, you won't get any shade from me! I would find it extremely difficult to use as a daily driver though, much moreso than Mavericks. I do try to support other old versions of OS X where possible. Aqua Proxy supports Snow Leopard for example, which took some effort. (I wish it could support Tiger too but there's no way to build Go binaries for Tiger.)

Not even by compiling Go to WASM, then transpiling WASM to C++, then building the resulting C++ with Tiger's GCC?

...do you think that could actually work? I can't entirely tell if you're joking or not, it's true I never considered this... does WASM code have the network access that would be required for a proxy?

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by dangus »

illwrks wrote: post #113
dangus wrote: post #100

So much work to not switch to Linux. And seriously, it is the year of the Linux desktop. I’m shocked at how much “just works” like a Mac. I feel like I have a system that’s more compatible with commercial software than a Mac (thanks Steam/Proton).

I use Macs for my day job, but personally I switched to Ubuntu (and Windows 11 when I have no choice). I have two older Mac's but they are fit for recycling now.

I made the leap due to Mac hardware cost and after seeing the Liquid Metal debacle. I also left iCloud Photos after Apple botched the UI.

I also got tired of jumping through hoops that didn’t really work most of the time to play games on Mac (e.g., Crossover).

But really, my Mac was an M1 system so I figured that even if I hated my Linux laptop I could just bail on it and get myself an M4 system as a nice upgrade. I was having issues with storage space and of course Macs aren’t upgradable so I have to sell my system and buy a new one to resolve that.

I’m very happy with my decision.

I run Bazzite with KDE and I’m very happy with the distro.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by nailer »

illwrks wrote: post #111
nailer wrote: post #102

> Each update seemed to chip away at something I liked about the platform. I have a MBP, 48GB RAM running today's stable version of macOS Sequoia 15.6.1 If I do cmd+space and type something it has 0 results for anything in my Documents folder. It's been that way for momnths despite all the OS updates. macOS used to be good.

Have you inadvertently set the search privacy on your drive? https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl1bb43b84/... If that's not the issue try rebuilding your Spotlight search index: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102321

Thanks, I wasn't looking for technical support. I did spend some time figuring this out (it was 'sudo mdutil -E /' that fixed it) but my point was:

The experience of using macOS, which I pay a large amount of money for, wasn't better than a Linux distribution.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by wsc981 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #29
wsc981 wrote: post #13

I noticed the app section included VPN. Recently I've been looking for some VPN solution and found that many are quite expensive, though often you get a decent enough discount if you subscribe for like a year or longer. Also, I believe many services are probably not trustworthy (regardless of their claims). A very affordable alternative is a DigitalOcean droplet with PiHole. You can connect with this VPN with Wiregua…

I haven't used WireGuard, but it looks like the main macOS implementation uses Go. Binaries built with Go 1.19 or below will work on Mavericks if you inject some compatibility libraries. (This is one of many things I haven't had time to fully document on the website yet, but I can help anyone who asks.) But the big problem with non-native VPNs on Mavericks (by which I mean, any VPN which requires installing additiona…

Thanks for the explanation regarding Mavericks issues with third-party VPN software.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Post by oinj »

Big fan of your OS X stuff! I still have a 11" 2012 MacBook Air with Core i7 and 8 GB RAM, if only I could use it as my everyday machine I'd be very happy!

I didn't know about Firefox Dynasty, it's very cool. (Wow, and Archive Plus and Preview Plus… you're killing it!)

What's your experience with those shady USB-C to Magsafe 2 cables/adapters? Old MacBook batteries are bound to deplete faster and faster every year, it'd be nice to be able to charge using what's most common nowadays.

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