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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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What a fucking mess. Labour voted in conservative policy. Conservatives voted against it. Reform, whilst all over the news for being against it, voted for it.

Clamping down on freedoms is not conservative policy. Crap like Communications Act 2003 and Ofcom has been Labour policy for decades.

I would read the 2019 Conservative manifesto, then. Crushing democracy and judicial oversight was very much Tory policy.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Here's the Conservative policy for the Online Safety Act 2023, during the Sunak government: * https://legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/notes/division/3/in... Here's the Conservative white paper on Online Harms from 2019, during the May government: * https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/online-harms-whi...

To be fair, u/jojobas wrote "conservative" (little-c), not "Conservative".

However they did also specifically reference the Labour government’s policy, so it’s reasonable to assume they were speaking in a UK context and simply forgot to capitalise it.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Yes. You need an ID to use the internet.

What about visitors?

Roaming is VPN. And if you want fast one outside firewall you can grab HK esim like soSIM. And this one only needs any passport photo w/o face verification.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Chinese Netizens are very familiar with Xi Jinping's national ID number precisely for this reason :-) ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. People figured out they can just use Xi's ID number.

> ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. Is that really true? So search engines? News sites? Pseudo-anonymous discussion forums?

You can have "read" access anonymously (with a big asterisk, see the end), but as soon as you need "write" access, the service provider (the website etc) is legally required to verify your ID. It's why there's no pseudo-anonymous discussion forum in China, at least legally.

Source: https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2016-11/07/content_5129723.htm

> Cybersecurity Law of the People's Republic of China, Article 24: When network operators provide users with network access, domain name registration services, fixed-line and mobile phone network access procedures, or provide users with information publishing, instant messaging and other services, they shall require users to provide real identity information when signing an agreement with the user or confirming the provision of services. If the user does not provide real identity information, the network operator shall not provide the relevant services to the user.

The big asterisk: there's no anonymous internet service in China, you have to ID yourself to get access to the internet (article 24), and the service provider are required to keep record of you (IP and everything) (article 21), and they are also required to cooperate with the authority (no surprise here) (article 28). And using VPN or Tor is likely illegal (article 27).

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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I like the spirit but wouldn't this run afoul of one or two laws? Identity fraud or some such? I'm not in the UK, so I don't have any idea about their laws, but I'd be shocked to find this was above board. Your FAQ claims it's a parody site and claims " The ID number isn't valid and you can't use the card for anything real. " but you've just confirmed here it can indeed be used for real things (discord, reddit). Your…

If you can fool discords implementation with a video game character they can't actually be checking very well?

Which actually does not refute GPs query. Breaking a Masterlock or Abus is the same in the eye of the law.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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It's literally just sticking the MPs name into an AI and asking for it to generate a mock ID for them. None of their real data is being used (e.g. their face, their DoB, the address) and the mock IDs wouldn't fool anyone for a second. I'd love if someone who understands the law would weigh in though

Does the AI has access to newspapers? If John Doe is a MP, then he is probably the most famous Joe Doe in the last 5 years and the AI may grab his photo from a newspaper. I don't know about the national ID in UK, but here in Argentina the national ID number is public. A lot of public documents include "John Doe (DNI 23.456.789)", and the are sites where you can search it (the DB has problems with almost coalitions, s…

^coalitions^collisions

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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"Alexa, summarise the last 15+ years of UK politics in two sentences."

I mean, the last 15 years were mostly Tories and the public kept voting them in. I’m glad I’m not a politician because I have no sympathy for Brexit voters who voted Tory in 2019, claim “I know what a voted for,” and now complain about how much poorer and full of immigrants the country now is. It was all there in the 2019 Conservative manifesto they voted for!

Wtf are you talking about? The Conservatives promised to reduce immigration in 2019. Instead they increased it to its highest ever levels by far, hence why they got thrown out of office.

Have you ever met or spoken to a Conservative voter in your entire life?

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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That happens all over the place, conservatives pass a time bomb bill, they lose control of congress/house, time bomb is about to become effective, they now fight to overturn it and place the blame on the current ruling folks.

This isn’t one of those cases. It was a well intentioned Bill that passed with Labour’s support but was very badly planned and written. Hell, it wouldn’t even have helped counter the misinformation being spread last summer and this summer to try and instigate more race riots!

“Well intentioned” hahahaha yeah right, good one.

The purpose of a system is what it does.

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