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Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Trello pricing just got a lot more reasonable, but there is one feature that might get me thinking of moving: conditional logic in automations. Be advised that Trello is now $5/mo. It's gonna be hard to compete here.

You can’t trust US companies anymore, they easily can become a weapon in a trade war.

You can't trust companies. Indeed, you never could.

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Random curious question. I was pondering the kanban backend. How do you store the order of the kanban cards in your database and keep that in sync with what's in the UI?

Here is the answer for Trello: each card and list has a field called “pos” which is a number. The initial values are spread out (e.g. 1000, 2000, 3000) and then when you move a card, it takes on the average of the two adjacent cards. So, if I move the 3rd card to the 2nd position, its “pos” becomes 1500. This means it doesn’t have to constantly renumber the cards -- but, every once and a while, the server does reorde…

This concept is called "lexorank"

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Hey HN, I couldn’t find an open-source alternative to Trello that I liked so I built my own. It’s fast, free and fully-customisable. You can self host it, or use the cloud version if you don’t want to manage your own infra. Repo -> https://github.com/kanbn/kan Cloud -> https://kan.bn Roadmap -> https://kan.bn/kan/roadmap I’d love feedback, bug reports, or any feature suggestions!

Congrats, strong start.

What are you doing (plan to do) that is more interesting/compelling/useful than anyone else?

Also, what have you learned so far? What surprised you?

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Hey HN, I couldn’t find an open-source alternative to Trello that I liked so I built my own. It’s fast, free and fully-customisable. You can self host it, or use the cloud version if you don’t want to manage your own infra. Repo -> https://github.com/kanbn/kan Cloud -> https://kan.bn Roadmap -> https://kan.bn/kan/roadmap I’d love feedback, bug reports, or any feature suggestions!

How does it compare to the existing open-source boards, such as: https://wekan.github.io/ https://taiga.io/ https://kanboard.org/

I went down the rabbit hole of self hosted kanban boards recently. Honestly, nothing comes close to Trello and while I love the open source communities (and supporting them), these alternatives usually dont come close, or worse they try to be super feature rich and its get in the way of their functionality. The better open source options tend to be airtable alternatives or full blown project management tools (Eigenboard, Plane, etc)

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is open source (the code is right there), but it's not Open Source due to what GP references. There is a distinction.

That’s not what open source means. That is generally called source available.

Source available sounds like you gotta buy it.

Think of it this way, if you were going to an event and saw 'buffet available' you'd enquire how to access it. If you saw 'open buffet' you'd know it's just there for the taking.

Open source sounds like it's free to view. It's open.

An open house isn't free to own. You view it.

Open source not meaning the source code is free to view but instead having a meaning related to licensing is silly.

Call it an open license, or just name the license. The code/source isn't the license. I'll die on this hill. Christine was cool but that doesn't make her infallible. Open source meaning open license was a mistake.

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is just a tool, it's no more useful than a non-complaining junior dev that constantly needs direction, but it sure can cut out a lot of repetitive work. I am more productive using it, but that is just me.

I use ai myself as stack exchange but this sentiment is extremely common on HN where you have people trying to force ai to do things it's clearly shit for. Not to mention the rust your brain gathers by not doing these little 'mundane' things. LLMS are a useless dead end anyway all these billion dollar corpos building over it, even worse hype than crypto.

Without making generalisations, I'm trying to leverage LLM as much as possible to see how they can help.

I know there is a lot of hype about LLM's and I'm genuinely interested in the niches that they can fill, and where they definitely shouldn't be involved in the software development process.

I would say I'm an expert level programmer in the small field that I work in, and have set up development teams in the past.

I think that is an advantage to working with integrating LLMs into a dev cycle as I have experience in providing structure with developers, something that LLMs 100% require, without a shred of doubt.

As the capability of LLMs continues to grow, having some framework around where they are 'almost good enough' will help re-evalutate them as they improve.

I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone else, just build a reference point for where we are now.

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not what open source means. That is generally called source available.

Source available sounds like you gotta buy it. Think of it this way, if you were going to an event and saw 'buffet available' you'd enquire how to access it. If you saw 'open buffet' you'd know it's just there for the taking. Open source sounds like it's free to view. It's open. An open house isn't free to own. You view it. Open source not meaning the source code is free to view but instead having a meaning related t…

> Think of it this way, if you were going to an event and saw 'buffet available' you'd enquire how to access it. If you saw 'open buffet' you'd know it's just there for the taking.

I think maybe you’re making a different point than you mean to?

- Buffet available = you can view the buffet for free, but you have to pay to use it

- Open buffet = you can use the buffet for free, it’s just there for the taking

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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post #34

Hey HN, I couldn’t find an open-source alternative to Trello that I liked so I built my own. It’s fast, free and fully-customisable. You can self host it, or use the cloud version if you don’t want to manage your own infra. Repo -> https://github.com/kanbn/kan Cloud -> https://kan.bn Roadmap -> https://kan.bn/kan/roadmap I’d love feedback, bug reports, or any feature suggestions!

I would love to see webhook support add to this. For many users this isn’t an issue but for use it’s a must have feature. Will stick to trello for the time being.

WeKan https://wekan.github.io has:

1) Per-board webhooks at board right sidebar / Board Settings / Webhooks

2) Global Webhooks at Admin Panel

See right menu of https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki , scroll down to webhooks part of menu.

It's possible to send board change events like move card as webhooks, for example to some chat:

https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/Outgoing-Webhook-to-Disc...

Or to NodeRED:

https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/2017

or to to some PHP webhook receiver like this, that can use Python code to call WeKan API:

https://github.com/wekan/webhook/blob/main/public/index.php#...

https://github.com/wekan/wekan/blob/main/api.py

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Trello pricing just got a lot more reasonable, but there is one feature that might get me thinking of moving: conditional logic in automations. Be advised that Trello is now $5/mo. It's gonna be hard to compete here.

WeKan https://wekan.github.io has IFTTT Rules like Trello Butler:

https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/IFTTT

And webhooks:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44165008

WeKan has these, that Trello does not have: Swimlanes, all code Open Source, On-Premise hosting, etc

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