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Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by DavyJone »

scosman wrote: post #124
sverhagen wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't live my life entirely on the command line either, but GUIs for Docker are just an interesting niche to me, for which I just don't understand what the ven diagram is between people that want Docker containers running locally, know that that's what they want, and know how it all works, but then don't want to do the small handful of commands at the prompt needed to get it running...

I would have assumed the same, but Docker makes ~100m ARR on docker desktop so it’s def not niche. https://sacra.com/research/docker-plg-pivot/

Docker Desktop includes the easy to run Docker Engine / Docker Machine. I think is fair to assume that most of the revenue is not from users that want a GUI but from users that want a stable Docker Engine experience.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

sverhagen wrote: post #115
istoica wrote: post #45

Kubernetes is planned - my devops wants me to add it badly! Author note - Most of you guys here are power users, for whom UI is a visual poem that you need or not. This is not a commercial project, it is not following any business goals. But this does not mean concessions to quality, it does try to offer minimal resource usage everywhere, easy experience, good UI/UX. It explains all it does behind the scenes if you e…

I don't live my life entirely on the command line either, but GUIs for Docker are just an interesting niche to me, for which I just don't understand what the ven diagram is between people that want Docker containers running locally, know that that's what they want, and know how it all works, but then don't want to do the small handful of commands at the prompt needed to get it running...

The problem is, I forget the commands all the time, because I use them on rare occasions. It gets the how this shit worked moment off your shoulder.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by phantomathkg »

bubaumba wrote: post #132
brailsafe wrote: post #116

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I don't necessarily want docker containers running locally as some hobbyist, they might be just part of the process, and if the gui helps me move through that process efficiently without having to add more commands to my memory, I'm happy about that. CLIs are great, but when nearly everything has one, those small amount of commands become quite a lot in aggregate.

there are ways to minimize memorization, most important: 1. keep log, docs, records of whatever you are doing. most commands are repetitive. 2. copilot or chatgpt, they help a lot with command lines and simple utilities 3. amazon Q sucks in comparison. 4. it used to be google, but now LLMs do it better. less scrolling and ads/spam.

Life is full of many things to do and so not everyone have the luxury to priorities logging ones life for everything they do. 2 or GUI are very feasible option for busy people.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by ilbeeper »

DavyJone wrote: post #151
scosman wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have assumed the same, but Docker makes ~100m ARR on docker desktop so it’s def not niche. https://sacra.com/research/docker-plg-pivot/

Docker Desktop includes the easy to run Docker Engine / Docker Machine. I think is fair to assume that most of the revenue is not from users that want a GUI but from users that want a stable Docker Engine experience.

Anecdotal, but my experience, as someone who gives DevOps professional services for many organizations, is that windows users that need containers know that they are called Docker and just download that. Must of them absolutely need GUI. Most of them doesn't know that Docker Desktop requires license, and I convert them to Rancher Desktop.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by dewey »

otteromkram wrote: post #137
fragmede wrote: post #106

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Which like, seems entirely fair, but when there are suitable enough replacements that cost $0, why pay for it? Sure there are big picture reasons, but companies often don't think that long-term.

Priority tech support when everything blows up is usually the number one reason.

I have a hard time thinking of cases where you need support or priority support for developer tooling like Docker. It’s not like Docker Desktop is running in production.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by dewey »

wg0 wrote: post #75

colima + docker CLI goes a long way. $ colima start $ docker context use colima And that's it. And Kubernestes? No thank you, life is already hard as is.

Every time I tried Colima it stopped working after a few days. Not just for me either. Back to Docker Desktop which never gave me a single issue in many years.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by SSLy »

abuani wrote: post #70
GiorgioG wrote: post #66

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Like everything in tech, it's all about tradeoffs and understanding how you want to scale your business. Of the three startups I've been at, 2 of them adopted k8s early on and 1 of which didn't. Of the two that adopted k8s, one I would say k8s was our key differentiator in terms of our GTM motion and how our platform powered the business. $MM customer needs a setup running as close to their current infra's region for…

NB, did the first company manage their own k8s clusters, or used cloud provider's controllers?

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by tacone »

istoica wrote: post #45

Kubernetes is planned - my devops wants me to add it badly! Author note - Most of you guys here are power users, for whom UI is a visual poem that you need or not. This is not a commercial project, it is not following any business goals. But this does not mean concessions to quality, it does try to offer minimal resource usage everywhere, easy experience, good UI/UX. It explains all it does behind the scenes if you e…

> It explains all it does behind the scenes if you enable the developer console. It can help one learn so at a certain moment one understands and automates with scripts and specs.

An excellent way to learn indeed! Good luck with your project.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by maccard »

sverhagen wrote: post #115
istoica wrote: post #45

Kubernetes is planned - my devops wants me to add it badly! Author note - Most of you guys here are power users, for whom UI is a visual poem that you need or not. This is not a commercial project, it is not following any business goals. But this does not mean concessions to quality, it does try to offer minimal resource usage everywhere, easy experience, good UI/UX. It explains all it does behind the scenes if you e…

I don't live my life entirely on the command line either, but GUIs for Docker are just an interesting niche to me, for which I just don't understand what the ven diagram is between people that want Docker containers running locally, know that that's what they want, and know how it all works, but then don't want to do the small handful of commands at the prompt needed to get it running...

GUIs excel at exploring. Exploring is a very very large part of what I do when running containers locally.

Re: Show HN: Container Desktop – Podman Desktop Companion

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Post by maccard »

scosman wrote: post #124
sverhagen wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't live my life entirely on the command line either, but GUIs for Docker are just an interesting niche to me, for which I just don't understand what the ven diagram is between people that want Docker containers running locally, know that that's what they want, and know how it all works, but then don't want to do the small handful of commands at the prompt needed to get it running...

I would have assumed the same, but Docker makes ~100m ARR on docker desktop so it’s def not niche. https://sacra.com/research/docker-plg-pivot/

How do I install and run docker containers on windows without docker desktop? I’ve made attempts in the past but never actually succeeded, and just enddd up using docker desktop.
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