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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by dvogel »

CJefferson wrote: post #98
nddrylliog wrote: post #88

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Totally understand your position. Hesitated a lot about this, and finally thought "fuck it, let's do it". I think it's like people working in porn: they don't necessarily enjoy the industry, but at one point they thought "man, there's really something that needs to be done". I'd much prefer a legal solution. I'd much prefer content owners to expose APIs for the licensing of their content, and have them let us create…

For much of this content there are 'APIs'. Why not link people to an Amazon link, or netflix, or iTunes, for films which are available at those places?

It does link to IMDB, which offers such purchasing links.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by rmc »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Breaking silly rules if it makes things better is part of the hacker ethic.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

saraid216 wrote: post #146
nddrylliog wrote: post #11

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Yup, sorry about that. The NSFW filter is off on our TMDb requests but apparently some go through regardless. The rotation is random from all movies in the db btw, not featured or anything.

If you just run the randomizer and get the first unique 100 or 200 and cull for NSFW, the effect would be the same without the peril.

That's the thing though: we have 0 movies marked as NSFW from TMDB in our database.

We'd have to have a 'Report as NSFW' link somewhere to achieve that, and that seems easy to abuse.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by kevinrpope »

nddrylliog wrote: post #113
dangrossman wrote: post #111

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On most of these stores, if you linked directly to the movie page, it'd be a one- or two-click experience between arriving and watching the video. On Amazon for example, you click the "Buy Movie" button, and it turns into a play button, which launches the movie player. As long as you're signed in, there are no intermediate steps, the purchase just goes to your default credit card or bank account and you get an e-mail…

Most of your assumptions should end with "if you live in the USA". Yup, life sucks for movie lovers in Europe.

Does LoveFilm not work in Europe?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by TylerE »

quinndupont wrote: post #94
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Who let the MPAA in here? Seriously, unless you are a massive copyright holder, attempting to exploit every red penny out of your brainwashed masses, I don't see how any user would have a problem with this. Maybe the movie industry should try to out-innovate?

It's very simple. As a creative person, who produces creative work, I desire a world in which it is possible for me to make a living doing that.

To put it in terms HN might be more comfortable with - how would you feel, if you operated a subscription website, if someone came along, and swiped your code and content, and put it up for free. Would you support that?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by [deleted] »

dangrossman wrote: post #111
nddrylliog wrote: post #100

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EDIT: Read below before downvoting, in USA the situation might be better. We're (Europe) still waiting. Because they so clearly suck at both UI and content distribution. I don't want to jump through hoops to watch a movie. And no I don't want to wait for the release window to clear. I want you to give me the rights to get it by my owns mean, because I know how to do it better than you. Just let me pay for the damn th…

On most of these stores, if you linked directly to the movie page, it'd be a one- or two-click experience between arriving and watching the video. On Amazon for example, you click the "Buy Movie" button, and it turns into a play button, which launches the movie player. As long as you're signed in, there are no intermediate steps, the purchase just goes to your default credit card or bank account and you get an e-mail…

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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by rmc »

canadaduane wrote: post #144
biot wrote: post #108

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> We don't upload movies, we don't run a tracker, we don't belong to > any release groups: that's how not interested in piracy we are. That's like saying "We don't sell crystal meth, we're not distributors for crystal meth, we don't belong to any drug production groups, but our site helps kids obtain crystal meth from those who do: that's how not interested in crystal meth we are."

Your analogy is paired because both piracy and meth are illegal in the USA. However, the pairing lacks equivalence in my view because crystal meth is clearly (and by nature, not by law) harmful to the user, while piracy is not. A better analogy might be a website that helps others circumvent the Great Firewall of China. It is illegal in one particular country, but circumvention does not harm individuals (only the soc…

Your censorship analogy is flawed, since copyright infringement is not legal in any country (im not sure, but Ethiopia might have started recognising foreign copyrights now)

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

biot wrote: post #97
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

The real shame is that this could have been a good money-maker had it been built to link to instant purchase options on iTunes, Amazon, and so on using affiliate links. Or even taken a "pirate with a conscience" strategy and offered purchase links alongside the torrent links. That way, everybody who claims they only download movies from torrents because the experience is better can both purchase a legit copy and have…

I hear http://www.dexy.tv/ is pretty good at that - dude just contacted me, we'll work together to bring that info over to movies.io for legal alternatives.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by kevinrpope »

canadaduane wrote: post #129
CJefferson wrote: post #105

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It's very difficult to out-innovate 'taking things someone else made and giving them away completely for free', when you have to make tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to break even.

Bottled water?

Water isn't copyrighted.
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