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Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by throwanem »

nkozyra wrote: post #149
throwanem wrote: post #126

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No one other than lawyers or lawyer accessories is going to represent the company to the domain owner about it, though. Source: Ages ago I had a personal domain based on a longstanding nick that happened to partially coincide with the name of a major motion picture studio. That it was a paralegal who called me said they weren't anxious to take it seriously, and all they were really after was just getting me to say it…

> No one other than lawyers or lawyer accessories is going to represent the company to the domain owner about it, though. Of course. Here's the plausible chain of events: 1. Someone at the co. reads about this on HN 2. They tell their boss who might tell their boss, etc. 3. It finally gets to someone who is responsible for telling the lawyers. But they also say "hey this is kind of cool. We'll send a C&D, but maybe r…

I guess it's not implausible somebody would try to open a nonadversarial conversation simultaneously with sending a C&D, but I will say I've never seen it done that way, and I suspect there's a good reason why not.

(Not least because escalating something to counsel, and then having side conversations about it with whoever you just brought to counsel's attention, is a bad idea!)

And that's if they see something here they might want to investigate further, which given SO's stance on ML-generated answers up to this point, I tend somewhat to doubt.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by nkozyra »

throwanem wrote: post #151
nkozyra wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one other than lawyers or lawyer accessories is going to represent the company to the domain owner about it, though. Of course. Here's the plausible chain of events: 1. Someone at the co. reads about this on HN 2. They tell their boss who might tell their boss, etc. 3. It finally gets to someone who is responsible for telling the lawyers. But they also say "hey this is kind of cool. We'll send a C&D, but maybe r…

I guess it's not implausible somebody would try to open a nonadversarial conversation simultaneously with sending a C&D, but I will say I've never seen it done that way, and I suspect there's a good reason why not. (Not least because escalating something to counsel, and then having side conversations about it with whoever you just brought to counsel's attention, is a bad idea!) And that's if they see something here t…

To be fair, I don't think the two things would happen concurrently.

I have, in fact, seen this exact scenario!

I don't think it's likely, but losing a domain is a small price to pay if that were potentially a goal.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by throwanem »

nkozyra wrote: post #152
throwanem wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it's not implausible somebody would try to open a nonadversarial conversation simultaneously with sending a C&D, but I will say I've never seen it done that way, and I suspect there's a good reason why not. (Not least because escalating something to counsel, and then having side conversations about it with whoever you just brought to counsel's attention, is a bad idea!) And that's if they see something here t…

To be fair, I don't think the two things would happen concurrently. I have, in fact, seen this exact scenario! I don't think it's likely, but losing a domain is a small price to pay if that were potentially a goal.

Sure, it makes sense to start with the friendly conversation and escalate to a C&D if that proves to be needed.

Deliberately infringing someone's trademark with a domain name seems to me like a dicey way to look for attention, though. But hey, "it's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for 'em."

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by emodendroket »

animuchan wrote: post #128
matsemann wrote: post #69

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"why are you doing this" isn't a " irrelevant stupid comment ". It's because most askers are really asking a XY question. They ask for Y, since that's their immediate problem, but solving X is their real goal. So it's a question meant to make it easier to help, when doing Y seems a bit weird. https://xyproblem.info/ > The people on stack overflow, by and large, are not nice From your long rant, I'm not sure if you're…

Oh, the XY people are the worst on SO. Here's the latest example I've seen: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57121467/import-a-module... Please see the comments under the OP. While the question is technically sound (I've needed this exact thing for a REPL I was writing), the comments are perfectly useless, self-entitled and discouraging drivel. Notable example: > This is an incredibly odd thing to ask (emphasis th…

If you’re writing a REPL it’s one thing but it does seem like evaluating a string is the kind of thing where most people trying to do it are using the wrong approach.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by Jipazgqmnm »

TheDudeMan wrote: post #43

Is this a joke or meant to be a useful tool? Part of the challenge of StackOverflow is finding the question that matches your situation. But that is a pointless act with ChatGPT -- just ask it your exact question. Duplicates be damned.

Additionally such actions contribute to the situation of being always over capacity.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by nkozyra »

throwanem wrote: post #153
nkozyra wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I don't think the two things would happen concurrently. I have, in fact, seen this exact scenario! I don't think it's likely, but losing a domain is a small price to pay if that were potentially a goal.

Sure, it makes sense to start with the friendly conversation and escalate to a C&D if that proves to be needed. Deliberately infringing someone's trademark with a domain name seems to me like a dicey way to look for attention, though. But hey, "it's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for 'em."

I hear that. But I don't think there was malice intended here. That won't stop a C&D, but it is more likely to keep the conversation open.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by [deleted] »

rvnx wrote: post #136
motoxpro wrote: post #7

Man. What an absolute GENIUS way to get people to not post ChatGPT answers. Just put them there from there from the start. "Burn the boats"

The main point of answering to StackOverflow questions is to earn points, points that you can show on your CV :) "Top StackOverflow expert on XX", so the incentive is still there. One solution to spam could be to keep the voting system, but not publicly reward users with points (like on HN).

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Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by BizarroLand »

dpkirchner wrote: post #133
soziawa wrote: post #96

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It very much depends on the tags you use. Swift and iOS is absolutely abysmal and questions will be closed as duplicates of questions that have been irrelevant for years. Go and Haskell are great though.

Android is as bad or worse. I wonder if SO's quality could be improved by a restart -- no closing questions because they're duped of something pre-restart. And FFS mandate that questions and answers include version numbers for all relevant software.

And, if a question is marked as a duplicate, require that a link to the supposed duplicate be provided on the question.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by activitypea »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #139
matsemann wrote: post #66

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I don't get this hate-boner HN has for SO. Have you tried being active there? It's super easy to not have your question closed, just do the minimum amount of effort. And if you're active, you'll see the thousands of similar questions arrive every day. If you're active in the review queues, you will see all the spam, broken answers, non-SO fitting questions etc. people churn out. I see people complain about how their…

> but when prompted no one every actually provides a link to their question. Ask, and ye shall receive. Here's my SO profile screen[0]. You can tell that it's me, because of my dragon logo, which is actually a refinement of my signature from the days I wanted to be an artist[1]. I actually make an effort to be "non-anonymous," these days. I feel that it helps me to be a better netizen. The first thing that you may no…

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Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by [deleted] »

activitypea wrote: post #159
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #139

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> but when prompted no one every actually provides a link to their question. Ask, and ye shall receive. Here's my SO profile screen[0]. You can tell that it's me, because of my dragon logo, which is actually a refinement of my signature from the days I wanted to be an artist[1]. I actually make an effort to be "non-anonymous," these days. I feel that it helps me to be a better netizen. The first thing that you may no…

meds

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