Hello, your product looks cool and I don't care about telemetry as it looks here. However, what is your ultimate business model? For tools like this I would prefer either a single purchase or a Jetbrains style annual-pay-with-fallback-licence.
Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#152I love the idea of mixing terminal and documentation, kind of like a terminal notebook. I wish there was an open source project that was basically just a shell/bash jupyter notebook and nothing more. So many little scripts, makefiles, project setups, etc. would be way easier to understand and maintain if they were mostly markdown documentation with some big "Run this" buttons next to the code blocks.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#153> Our business model is to make the terminal so useful for individuals that their companies will want to pay for the team features. We will never sell your data.
So, don't collect it to begin with, so even if you get bought the data can't be sold, because there is none?
Ah wait...
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#154I've been using Warp on and off since it got released and I was under the impression that it was Electron-based as it didn't feel as responsive as iTerm. At one point, with just one open tab (in the early days), it was using over 10GB of memory, but I will definitely give it another fresh try.
Thanks for calling this out! Yeah we unfortunately had a memory issue early on with loading fonts that would cause memory in Warp to explode. This has since been fixed and memory in Warp should hover around ~50-100 MB.
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#155> I’m ___, founder and CEO of Warp, and am excited to show you Warp, a fast Rust-based terminal To be honest - it feels weird seeing a company launch a free terminal, in 2022. How will the company make money? How long will this tool be around for? How will this company degrade the experience, or my privacy, so they can make money? I also don't know how to square my thoughts on the above with the need to have sustaina…
Warp engineer here. The terminal is totally free for individuals. Our business model is to make the terminal so useful for individuals that their companies will want to pay for the team features. We will not degrade your experience: we would never charge for anything a terminal currently does. No paywalls around SSH or features that don't cost us money. We will never sell your data. We treat privacy seriously at Warp…
> Our business model is to make the terminal so useful for individuals that their companies will want to pay for the team features.
why would businesses pay for something that was always free?
selling bottom to top is terrible strategy that rarely works (been there, done that)
you should instead market it to decision-makers who actually have a say what services the business purchases or not
developers have no say in business and have no access to credit cards
basically if you want to sell a terminal app, don't sell a terminal app, instead sell your "productivity platform" and terminal is just needed to "access productivity benefits"
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#156There are some legitimate concerns about Warp throughout these comments (telemetry, business model, etc.). But the one thing that really excites me is to have a full team working full-time on building the terminal that developers want to use. They're doing real user research, talking to developers, and taking feedback in forums like HN seriously - and using up millions of VC-dollars building a new version of this fun…
Yeah I think some folks are seeing this and thinking the terminal is the product, when in reality the devops platform is the real product here and a slick terminal emulator is one component of that platform. Enterprises pay good money to companies like Redhat, Teleport, etc. for similar kinds of devops collaboration/security platforms.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#157Congrats on your launch, though it seems you are getting slammed here and it may not be the reception you anticipated. I'm genuinely curious if you talked to your target demographic prior to this or only postulated that this would be a viable product with the proposed revenue model? The HN crowd is brutally candid and honest. Hopefully the criticism you are currently receiving can be structured into a revision of the…
Thanks for the kind words! We actually did (and still do) talk to our Users via Discord, github issues, as well as 1-1 User interviews.
In fact, I participated in a very first user research sessions (back then it was me and the ENTIRE WARP TEAM) almost a year ago, and after a session like this I decided to interview with the company and changed my job, and joined Warp :))
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#158> Warp is a fully native, GPU-accelerated, Rust-based terminal. No Electron or web-tech. I understand that this probably appeals to most readers there, but I don't like the negativity. I like Rust and Web tech, sometimes together, and I don't want my tools to shit on what I like. We can also discuss the full nativeness. To me, the menus don't even try to look native. Is it native because it doesn't use a virtual mach…
Hi, Warp engineer here! Nothing against electron. We write this in the headline because people who see features like blocks or input editor automatically think "slow". So it's a succinct way to communicate that we have a snappy app.
For benchmarks, we have some preliminary info in this tech blog https://www.warp.dev/blog/how-warp-works.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#159Another one riding the "Rust-based" horse.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#160Wanted to give it a shot but got disappointed when I launched it and the following happened: - Outgoing request to googleapis.com - Outgoing request to segment.io - Outgoing request to sentry.io - Requires sign up (only via Github, mind you) I understand the first request is probably to get some dynamic configuration, even though I'd rather my terminal ship with static configuration. But then you have segment and sen…
1) installed it
2) login required
3) uninstalled it
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