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Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by n3k5 »

betageek wrote: post #25

This looks really great, something I could use and would pay for when polished but there's definitely a few issues for me at the moment: * Why go fullscreen and modal? I want to drag in links from docs, email, other browsers, have it side by side while reading PDFs etc. etc. this stops me from doing any of that * Please let me change the shortcut! I already have Option-Space bound. * Let me put the browser window any…

I agree with everything, except that this is something that can be polished into sth. usable. After trying Bonsai, I think it's a promising proof of concept that demonstrates what should now be implemented properly. A ‘quick’ hack on top of Electron is just really slow and clunky compared to a ‘real’ browser.

I know this is asking a lot, but as an end user with an unlimited budget for big dreams, I'd like to see something like this as a fork of Firefox that eventually gets enough of its changes upstreamed so it can become just an extension for the browser I'm already running anyway.

Anyway, a little addendum:

> Why go fullscreen and modal?

And for when I want it full-screen and modal, at least do it right, please. E.g. it shows up in the cmd-tab task switcher, but that can't actually be used to switch to Bonsai, nor away from it (!!). And, again, it's too slow. (What's with the dramatic fade-out animation?)

Btw., you can drag a link on top of it (at least when option-space doesn't do something else already ;) and the cursor changes to identify a valid drop target, but when you drop, nothing happens.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by unbad505 »

wanderingmind wrote: post #141

I'm sorry but couldn't find the information. Is this built on top of chrome(chromium)? Do you have plans to release it as open-source given the market you are targeting is a small one and (rightfully) a paranoid one.

It is chromium based: https://envs.sh/X-.png

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by legobmw99 »

pps wrote: post #144
raunak wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You assume most people have the patience to copy paste passwords from Bitwarden rather than the ease of Lastpass - just doesn't work for 99% of the population.

Ease of Lastpass is the same as ease of Bitwarden, both have extension for browsers :)

And now we’re back to the original commenter pointing out that this new browser lacks such extensions

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by wpietri »

anigbrowl wrote: post #142
crazy_horse wrote: post #135

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I'm surprised to see you so excited about this. Have you used tiling window managers? What does this and a rofi or similar component not have, or a gnome3 script? Not as convenient, yeah. The big concern I would have if I were these guys is their magic is their UI, apparently, and they've given it away. If they truly have something good, it's some Electron windows inside a gui kit. Not to understate the work, but the…

I've been griping about the tedium of trying to organize tabs (and to a lesser extent bookmarks) for a long time. I typically have hundreds of tabs open and my sanity maintenance method is to keep their number under 256. They're somewhat organized with tab groups but the overhead of managing them is a huge pain point for me. So the visual categorization and search looks like a huge win. I don't care that much about t…

I'm not sure if this is helpful to you, but at some point I realized that I was using "open tab" to represent many different things. Once I started naming the uses, I realized that I could shift them to use-related systems. E.g., a "to read" tab gets fed to Instapaper and closed. a "to do" tab ends up on a relevant Kanban board. A "I might want to be able to find this again" tab goes into Pinboard. Tabs that are basically apps I want to keep open get turned into apps.

That, combined with relatively small units of work (most of my kanban cards are in the 0.25-2.0 day range) means that I can just go on tab closing sprees frequently.

I ended up liking this approach because having a zillion open tabs introduces a subtle stress and anxiety that's sort of like when I visit a hoarder.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by itwy »

phist_mcgee wrote: post #136
Vaslo wrote: post #132

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Mac only though. Many of us don’t have or want Apple PCs.

This still refutes the previous poster's point though. Just because you don't use apple, does not mean that LastPass doesn't offer this service.

It doesn't.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by anigbrowl »

zzo38computer wrote: post #148
anigbrowl wrote: post #124

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I like the idea of Gemini but the reality is 'here's a list of random servers which could be anything but at least our user interface is from the 1980s'. I like how it's lighter than the web, but I don't see how it's 'heavier than Gopher' as suggested (and I have been watching the Gemini project for a few months now). I was on the internet well before the web and I used Gopher all the time. It was great by the standa…

These are not problems with the Gemini protocol itself. The Gemini clients that I have seen do usually allow the user to change the colours, as far as I can tell. (This is usually better than the document specifying the colours, in my opinion.) Gemini does have a write protocol (I think it is to change "gemini:" at the beginning of the request to "titan:", add some URI parameters for the size and MIME type of the dat…

I have no issues with the protocol - I really like it. I really want this to succeed. I'm talking about the way the protocol is presented to the world, the project as a whole. You need to show people it's cool, it's flexible, it can do useful things while also embodying privacy and low cruft.

Otherwise it ends up like Brainfuck - impressively clever, but you wouldn't want to use it for anything. It could be great for education or in many other contexts, but it's important to show something.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

jedberg wrote: post #125
itwy wrote: post #60

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You should drop any software that prevents you from changing another unrelated software. In other words, move from LastPass to Bitwarden.

Having your password manager tied to your browser is more secure because the saved password doesn't show up unless you're in the correct domain, preventing phishing attacks.

Using a browser extension may erode the benefits by increasing your attack surface.

Tavis Ormandy: https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/passmgrs.html

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