This is awfully expensive for a service that Gmail includes for free.
But this is operated by humans. Gmail uses a glorified Perl script.
the perl script works pretty well
Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
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Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wiktionary ‘defines’ spam as ‘unsolicited and unwanted’. Elsewhere, Wikipedia describes spam as ‘unsolicited or unwanted’. And vs. Or. Of course spam’s definition should use ‘and’. When you sign up for a newsletter, and later decide you don’t want it, to call it ‘spam’ is merely metaphorical. [1]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spam [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam
Nah. You forgot to quote the key word from those definitions: email. Not "newsletters subscriptions", not "promises to receive interesting emails", not "agreements to get sent x mails per week". Spam is unsolicited and/or unwanted email, period. It does not matter whether you were tricked into subscribing to some newsletter or whether you checked a "receive interesting emails from us" box while paying for something.…
"Unwanted" is hard to define in a way not to include many things. When an acquaintance or relative sends me some bullshit meme or a silly joke, that's an unwanted email. It's not spam though.
That's why there usually needs to be some direct or indirect commercial gain involved too.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#153Btw, how specific is the American CAN-SPAM act in terms of how the unsubscribe link should work? In my country I sometimes get emails with unsubscribe links that require you to log in first, which can be a pain to pull out the credentials when you don't really remember signing up for it in the first place. Does CAN-SPAM specify, say, that an unsubscribe link 1)must not require a login? 2)must lead to completion of th…
It’s even worse if someone else erroneously uses your email address, thus making it virtually impossible to unsubscribe from the mailing list.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#154Btw, how specific is the American CAN-SPAM act in terms of how the unsubscribe link should work? In my country I sometimes get emails with unsubscribe links that require you to log in first, which can be a pain to pull out the credentials when you don't really remember signing up for it in the first place. Does CAN-SPAM specify, say, that an unsubscribe link 1)must not require a login? 2)must lead to completion of th…
It’s even worse if someone else erroneously uses your email address, thus making it virtually impossible to unsubscribe from the mailing list.
I use filters in Thunderbird to just delete them when they arrive if marking them as spam doesn't work.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#155I find it fitting that #1 on your Wall of Shame is Uber. I've lost count of how many times I've tried to unsubscribe from their marketing. Even marking it as spam in Gmail dosen't seem to help.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#156Btw, how specific is the American CAN-SPAM act in terms of how the unsubscribe link should work? In my country I sometimes get emails with unsubscribe links that require you to log in first, which can be a pain to pull out the credentials when you don't really remember signing up for it in the first place. Does CAN-SPAM specify, say, that an unsubscribe link 1)must not require a login? 2)must lead to completion of th…
Yes, what they're doing is illegal. [1]
§ 316.5 Prohibition on charging a fee or imposing other requirements on recipients who wish to opt out.
Neither a sender nor any person acting on behalf of a sender may require that any recipient pay any fee, provide any information other than the recipient's electronic mail address and opt-out preferences, or take any other steps except sending a reply electronic mail message or visiting a single Internet Web page, in order to:
(a) Use a return electronic mail address or other Internet-based mechanism, required by 15 U.S.C. 7704(a)(3), to submit a request not to receive future commercial electronic mail messages from a sender;
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#157If you disable "load remote content" in your email client, all spam eventually stops.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#158This is awfully expensive for a service that Gmail includes for free.
> This is awfully expensive for a service that includes for free.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#159If you disable "load remote content" in your email client, all spam eventually stops.
Where you gotten that idea from? Don't think this is true. I've never worked at a company that stopped sending emails because the trackers didn't work, and I haven't had remote content enabled for 15 years and I still get spam.
Is it maybe supposed to be a joke? Went past me in that case.
Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing
#160If you disable "load remote content" in your email client, all spam eventually stops.
Where you gotten that idea from? Don't think this is true. I've never worked at a company that stopped sending emails because the trackers didn't work, and I haven't had remote content enabled for 15 years and I still get spam. Is it maybe supposed to be a joke? Went past me in that case.
> Where you gotten that idea from?
From my and my friends personal experience.