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Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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Yeah I like the sound of the functionality but I don't like the idea of it taking up menu bar space. Console utility would be good or even a gui that can be quickly launched through spotlight

You might like Ice: https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice

Sadly Ice is no longer maintained, but the fork Thaw[1] is active:

https://github.com/stonerl/Thaw

Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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For some reason the app supports a separate standalone window mode as well [0]. It's not clear why the developer took the trouble to support two different modes when the menubar mode doesn't seem to add anything (like a live-updating icon for throughput). Well, I can think of one reason why it wasn't that much more trouble. François Chollet had a nice tweet [1] on why removing human cognitive friction is resulting in…

> It's not clear why People asked for it in these comments here and the developer added it.

Thanks, from the git log I see it was committed 20 minutes before my comment. I was going by the HN title and description and missed those comments.

Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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I've got Opus crunching on it now, will update when I have it finished and published Edit: https://github.com/Zetaphor/whatcable-linux Running on my Fedora KDE machine right now. Also includes a CLI so you could wrap your own widget I still need to figure out publishing, doing this in between work meetings.

I do not use KDE and wanted just command-line version of it without any Qt dependencies, so I've burned some tokens and produced just that: https://github.com/vzaliva/whatcable-linux-cli

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Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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I've got Opus crunching on it now, will update when I have it finished and published Edit: https://github.com/Zetaphor/whatcable-linux Running on my Fedora KDE machine right now. Also includes a CLI so you could wrap your own widget I still need to figure out publishing, doing this in between work meetings.

I do not use KDE and wanted just command-line version of it without any Qt dependencies, so I've burned some tokens and produced just that: https://github.com/vzaliva/whatcable-linux-cli

Sorry, I'm late to the party but there's no rust port yet, so ..

https://crates.io/crates/whatcable

Thanks to the previous implementers/clauders.. I don't take any credits.

Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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I remember seeing a recent analysis where the vast majority of cables from Amazon misreported their capabilities. Is this tool going to be able to catch those, or blindly report what the chip advertises?

The tool can only tell you what the cable says. Detecting the gauge and composition of the wires in the cable is either destructive or requires temperature probes. Detecting whether the signal characteristics are close enough to in-spec or not requires a speed test, perhaps, but that also doesn't necessarily mean the cable is the problem if such a test failed.

This would be super to have! I do a lot of software defined radio work and the quality of USB (C) cables is pretty much a wild west. I needed some for a workshop and it was almost impossible to find a cable that didnt have crazy reflections and interference at all frequencies. I went through 6 different brands and vendors. In the end the cleanest signal came from an original Apple Type C cable (around 20usd). I am not sure if its because their shielding, differential pairs or signal integrity computation (iirc there is like a pretty beefy soc in the connector), or that I used it with an Apple Macbook. Some of the cables I found to perform badly were cut open, revealing missing shielding and none of them had twisted pairs.

Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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I am definitely gonna contribute or fork to create an open leaderboard of cable brands and quality :D

I dont know how they do it, but the original Apple Type C cable is GREAT. I use it for software defined radio stuff, where your usb cable can start to act as an antenna and causing interference and reflections. I tested about 6 different brands and vendors and these gave the cleanest signal. Theyre also pretty pricy sadly. Not sure about the speeds and pd, but suspect it should be fine…

Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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I get that the connectors are identical but I find it odd that people find it so challenging. Thunderbolt is the thick and short cable. If it's not thick it's not gonna work well and if it's over a metre it's not gonna work well. cf my pile of thin long "basic" usb c cables.

How do you define "thick" or "short" to a non-engineer/tech person? Relative to what exactly?

It comes with experience, you know it when you see it.

Re: Show HN: WhatCable, a tiny menu bar app for inspecting USB-C cables

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I get that the connectors are identical but I find it odd that people find it so challenging. Thunderbolt is the thick and short cable. If it's not thick it's not gonna work well and if it's over a metre it's not gonna work well. cf my pile of thin long "basic" usb c cables.

Thunderbolt 4 passive (over usb) is 0.8m in length, longer cables are active, up to two meters I think, so they do exist.

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