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Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by shrubby »

rohandhruva wrote: post #69
ivanjermakov wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least on iOS, internet call is treated basically the same as cellular, showing a splash caller screen and ringing if not on silent. This means that it's trivial to setup phone in such a way that no notification gets through but calls do, even with sound.

The point being made above is that if data is turned off, you can no longer receive calls made over WhatsApp.

Yup.

My intention is to intentionally block whatsapp calls.

And to use the oldskool telephone for emergencies.

I could have communicated it more clearly.

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by nottorp »

reedf1 wrote: post #7

My solution to this problem was to have my phone permanently on silent. The logic being - there was nothing so urgent 25 years ago that couldn't be solved by an asynchronous answering machine message checked once a day; why do I need moment to moment updates now. Nowadays I'd probably use a tool like yours. My partner is going through legitimate withdrawal symptoms after two years of short-form content addiction. Tur…

Deny all notifications when installing a new app. Enable them only if you absolutely need them.

Gate access isn't absolutely need, your visitors can call you. Or if you order food you can check status on the food app.

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by nottorp »

benrutter wrote: post #34

This looks nice! I had no idea you could actually control notifications as an app. One thing I've always wanted is the ability to "group" notifications. Apps like WhatsApp can be really bad for pinging lots of times within a minute for individual messages. I really don't need my phone to buzz more than once every five minutes, and wish I could set rules like "don't buzz for x minutes after a notification".

You mean your whatsapp isn't muted, and the mute muted again just in case?

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by DANmode »

gruez wrote: post #53
Draiken wrote: post #50

I would love to use this, but I don't want to allow a third party app with closed source to read all my notifications. This can read OTP passwords, full messages, etc. so it must be open source for me to consider it. I would donate/pay for this if it was open source on F-Droid. Kudos to you for building it. I put off building this exact same application so many times it's not even funny. Too bad I'm too lazy to maint…

>I would love to use this, but I don't want to allow a third party app with closed source to read all my notifications. This can read OTP passwords, full messages, etc. so it must be open source for me to consider it. The app lacks the INTERNET permission so it can't really exfiltrate data even if it wanted to.

Not alone,

but it could prepare a tidy little package for something else to grab later.

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by DANmode »

Terr_ wrote: post #115
pava0 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, we can in Android. In my OnePlus 12 in the app settings under "data usage" there are two toggles for "disable mobile data" / "disable wifi"

Not present with a Pixel with Android 16, my effective choices are: 1. App can't use mobile data in background 2. App can use mobile data in background except in Data Saver mode 3. App can use mobile data in background regardless of Data Saver mode ____ For anyone doing comparisons, the literal settings appear under "Mobile Data Usage" as: * [X] Background Data ("Enable usage of mobile data in the background") * [ ]…

You mean Google-Android.

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by _puk »

hunter2_ wrote: post #133
indolering wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to rule out intentional side channels without access to source.

Do you mean a no-internet app (like this) could write data locally in a way that another internet-enabled app (in cahoots) could locally receive? Like a non-sandboxed storage area? Seems plausible.

Meta literally got caught doing this.

Writing to a local server, and then uploading from the browser to bypass consent mechanisms.

https://wire.com/en/blog/metas-stealth-tracking-another-eu-w...

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by wltr »

blauditore wrote: post #109
wafflemaker wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, thought it was GrapheneOS only, but no. Confirmed these settings on One+15 on OOS16 (based on Android 16). Is it also the case for other Android brands? P.S. I did use it before to turn off ads.

Google's Pixel phones (near stock Android) famously do NOT have the option.

Google is invested into you having WiFi all the time.

Weirdly, my very old Nexus 6P with the WiFi off, could lie untouched for weeks, with almost no battery depletion. Yet if I turn the WiFi on with near stock Android (meaning no messengers, tens of email accounts, etc, to constantly ping _something_), it just eats the battery within 24 hours tops. Perhaps that’s just the module itself, but I remember flashing LineageOS and having better savings. I have no real numbers to support that right now, although I still have the phone lying around somewhere and could test this some day.

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by Draiken »

ranger_danger wrote: post #127
Draiken wrote: post #50

I would love to use this, but I don't want to allow a third party app with closed source to read all my notifications. This can read OTP passwords, full messages, etc. so it must be open source for me to consider it. I would donate/pay for this if it was open source on F-Droid. Kudos to you for building it. I put off building this exact same application so many times it's not even funny. Too bad I'm too lazy to maint…

If you're that paranoid, you might also consider not using F-Droid: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/android/obtaining-apps/#f-d... https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/15490-f-droid-or-obtainium

TIL!

IDK if I would consider not blindly trusting an unknown third party to read all my notifications being paranoid, but if it is, then yeah, I guess I am.

I've used F-droid merely due to the open source guarantee, so how fast these apps are patched isn't a deal-breaker for me, but I'll definitely look into Obtanium now.

Thank you!

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by PunchyHamster »

blauditore wrote: post #77
gruez wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I would love to use this, but I don't want to allow a third party app with closed source to read all my notifications. This can read OTP passwords, full messages, etc. so it must be open source for me to consider it. The app lacks the INTERNET permission so it can't really exfiltrate data even if it wanted to.

That's another pet peeve of mine: Why the hell can't we block internet access for apps in (native) Android? Everything else is a permission, but this is not, somehow.

It is a permission that app can get without asking the user

Re: Show HN: DoNotNotify – Log and intelligently block notifications on Android

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Post by artk42 »

Draiken wrote: post #50

I would love to use this, but I don't want to allow a third party app with closed source to read all my notifications. This can read OTP passwords, full messages, etc. so it must be open source for me to consider it. I would donate/pay for this if it was open source on F-Droid. Kudos to you for building it. I put off building this exact same application so many times it's not even funny. Too bad I'm too lazy to maint…

Absolutely! It is a sovereignty software effectively, it could be OSS only, otherwise treated as "soon to turn into bloatware cash-cow to death". There is no other way to gain trust, but staying closed source is a way to confirm distrust. If dev scared about monetization that much, that's a pre-bloatware effectively.
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