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Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

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This looks like an interesting concept! > I find that the drag and drop experience can quickly become a nightmare, especially on mobile. To me, drag and drop is only a nightmare on mobile. On desktop (using a mouse or trackpad), drag and drop actually works quite well. Your design experiment reminds me of a recent talk of Scott Jenson, where he talked about how we just took over established UX patterns from desktop t…

> On desktop (using a mouse or trackpad), drag and drop actually works quite well. Strong disagree here. It is intuitive, it is easy to demonstrate. But it's not really convenient, especially on a trackpad. I have enough mouse agility to play RTS games but not to do a reliable drag-and-drop, especially in a complicated case - across windows, with scroll, etc.

> But it's not really convenient, especially on a trackpad

From my experience, there's nothing convenient about a trackpad; pretty much ever. About the only thing they do better than a normal mouse is scrolling left/right, and that's only marginally. I bring a mouse with me when I take my laptop somewhere because I hate the trackpad so much.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#143
Sharing some feedback and some broader context.

I think it's said in other words elsewhere but the "picked" state needs to be clearer that it's picked up. What may be helpful is to actually add a drop shadow/scale/border and ideally there should be a hole where it was that makes it clear that you are holding it.

Not trying to diminish, but this pattern has other uses already. Anyone who builds accessibly for folks who use keyboard and no mouse.

Tab/arrows to highlight, Enter to select, Arrows to move, Enter to drop.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#149
For a UX pattern, I will often need to move multiple items at the same time. I'd like an exploration that allows the equivalent of shift-click and command-click for multi-select. And if they're not consecutive, they should be grouped.

Otherwise, it's going to be a very frustrating experience to move a number of things.

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