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Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

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That's a false equivalence. There's more nuance than that. Both OpenAI and Google have a genuine private-sector business model, whereas my claim is that DeepSeek is totally a China Gov't entity.

how much of their funding came from the chinese government?

let's not try to split hairs.

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

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post #87

> Okay, let's tackle this roast based on the user's data. First, I need to pick the three most unusual bits. The user is using Safari 17.6 on Mac OS 10.15.7. Wait, macOS 10.15 is Catalina, which is pretty old now—like from 2019. That's a bit outdated, so that's unusual. Next, the screen resolution is 1024x1366. That's a taller screen than usual. Most common resolutions are wider, so maybe they're using an older iPad…

I got similar results and it was kind of hokey. While I'm incredibly glad we're getting open source LLMs with chain of thought, I'm not really impressed by its current use cases. LLMs are all same-y and it feels like we're getting loafs of cheesy language spam without much sci-fi future. I expect for this kind of tech to have really novel use cases. For it to sit between me and the internet and remove the ads, nuke t…

Ironically, the advancements in AI R&D and LLMs by Google and Meta were largely funded by their advertising-driven business models.

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

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post #87

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I got similar results and it was kind of hokey. While I'm incredibly glad we're getting open source LLMs with chain of thought, I'm not really impressed by its current use cases. LLMs are all same-y and it feels like we're getting loafs of cheesy language spam without much sci-fi future. I expect for this kind of tech to have really novel use cases. For it to sit between me and the internet and remove the ads, nuke t…

I've been working on exactly this. Great to know there's some demand for it. It's now my daily driver for web access. It monitors for content I'm interested in (that's how I found your comment), handles all my searches and feeds, can dynamically adapt its interface, and is working on integrations to submit content for me so that I don't have to leave that interface to write these replies. Hoping to release it early M…

Electric Monk ?

from Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently series

"Electric monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, ..."

EDit: or maybe, since it's not just believing, a Janitor?

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

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>Oh, look at you, a Stockholm-based tech enthusiast with a screen so tall and narrow it’s practically a skyscraper for ants, browsing Hacker News like it’s your full-time job. You’re rocking a mysterious "K" model Android device with no CPU architecture listed—did you build this thing in your garage? And sure, you speak five languages, but let’s be real, you’re probably just using Google Translate to flex on your 418-pixel-wide display.

Hah. I have an older Xperia phone. They are tall and lovely.

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

#146

> Okay, let's tackle this roast based on the user's data. First, I need to pick the three most unusual bits. The user is using Safari 17.6 on Mac OS 10.15.7. Wait, macOS 10.15 is Catalina, which is pretty old now—like from 2019. That's a bit outdated, so that's unusual. Next, the screen resolution is 1024x1366. That's a taller screen than usual. Most common resolutions are wider, so maybe they're using an older iPad…

10.15 is not the latest macOS release by a longshot. It was released in 2019, exactly as the output says.

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

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post #124

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American "growth" companies aren't 100% funded by the USA Gov't with the only goal being to damage foreign national private sector companies. American companies are private sector only and have a business model that's to benefit a company, not a nation. In China all companies function as part of their National Party.

> American companies are private sector only and have a business model that's to benefit a company, not a nation. How can you believe that when copyright laws only applied when regular people pirate but not when big tech uses pirates content to it train their AI? Also it's known that Pentagon funded many tech companies during cold war https://qz.com/the-pentagon-is-spending-billions-on-big-tech... . Is this not gover…

What I meant was that in America the Gov't doesn't get to dictate the actions and policies of private sector companies, whereas in Communist China their Gov't absolutely does control the private sector, and has it's tentacles deep into every important industry.

Regarding letting AIs train on copyrighted material, which is a separate issue, I do think that will and should remain legal. For example if an AI can learn to paint in the style of Picasso, that's a skill, not a theft. Same is true of an AI that can learn to write "in the style of" Hemingway, for example.

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a false equivalence. There's more nuance than that. Both OpenAI and Google have a genuine private-sector business model, whereas my claim is that DeepSeek is totally a China Gov't entity.

> is totally a China Gov't entity Honestly, I don't know. I feel like if any better model came out from literally any AI lab in China, people would say literally exactly the same thing. Some Chinese companies are pouring billions in similar AI stuff as we're doing in the West. DeepSeek also creating problems for those companies as well. I would even go as far as saying, all those "illegal GPUs" are probably in hands…

My hunch is that DeepSeek is lying about creating their AI using just a few outdated chips and a $6mn budget. And when I heard DeepSeek was providing basically free and unlimited AI inference services that also made me think it's gotta be funded by their Gov't (China), because no private sector company can afford that.

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

#149

> Okay, let's tackle this roast based on the user's data. First, I need to pick the three most unusual bits. The user is using Safari 17.6 on Mac OS 10.15.7. Wait, macOS 10.15 is Catalina, which is pretty old now—like from 2019. That's a bit outdated, so that's unusual. Next, the screen resolution is 1024x1366. That's a taller screen than usual. Most common resolutions are wider, so maybe they're using an older iPad…

It got private relay information

Re: Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent

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post #116

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Don’t know about your particular problem, but I’m pretty sure it was largely a response to iPads being sent to mobile sites with horrible usability thanks to navigator.userAgent.match(/iPhone|iPad|iPod/) or the server-side equivalent. The problem was amplified by the release of the 12.9’’ iPad Pro, so self-identifying as a Mac made sense.

Its not a Mac though. I'd much prefer Apple use the User Agent correctly rather than hack around it like that. The system we used did use user agents to identify mobile devices or computers. And gave the iPad users a terrible experience because Apple lied.

Well I’m glad Apple prioritizes us over you the. I don’t care that you want it a different way. Apple forcing the end of bad practices in this instance is a win.
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