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Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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there is also PearAI - "The Open Source AI-Powered Code Editor. A fork of VSCode and Continue." [0]. It's getting very crowded in this space: cursor.sh, continue.dev, double.bot, supermaven, codium.ai, PearAI and now Void. [0] - https://github.com/trypear/pearai-app

If you've tried others, would love to understand if there's anything you didn't like specifically (I'm one of the creators for https://double.bot)

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Seems to be a dupe of another Show HN post posted by the same user 4 days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41523197

A small number of reposts is ok if an article hasn't had significant attention yet. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#reposts.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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I’d love a good summary on why Cursor, Void (and I assume other tools) decided to build new editors instead of just extending the incumbents (VSCode extension, Jetbrains plugins). Is there a technical limitation of the extension APIs or is it easier to “market” a new editor than an editor extension? While adoption for individuals and small companies might be easy, a lot of bigger places already have other integration…

Cody has done exactly what you said, do it through an extension, and is competitive with Cursor. I've been unable to find a reason to use Cursor over Cody given the "fork" drawback. Though I've mostly switched over to Aider.

Someone else mentioned monetization, which may be the real reason.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Cursor needs some competition. Their generation quality fell off a cliff recently as they are doing behind the scenes product optimizations with LLMs

I'm not sure why SourceGraph is struggling so much that I have to do it for them (maybe the name?), but Cody is competition and has the benefit of being an extension instead of a fork.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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post #128

there is also PearAI - "The Open Source AI-Powered Code Editor. A fork of VSCode and Continue." [0]. It's getting very crowded in this space: cursor.sh, continue.dev, double.bot, supermaven, codium.ai, PearAI and now Void. [0] - https://github.com/trypear/pearai-app

If you've tried others, would love to understand if there's anything you didn't like specifically (I'm one of the creators for https://double.bot )

I ended up actually not trying double.bot - overall I tried only cursor.sh (first with BYOK and now subscriber) and continue.dev (didn't manage to integrate own key from OpenRouter in JetBrains plugin). For me in the beginning one of the selling point is if I can bring my own key (ideally with GUI setup instead of some config file and working with OpenRouter key). Then if something is open source is also a selling point.

I would recommend update double.bot landing page to have all features shown in few gifs on the same page and 'show in action' short video' - continue.dev had actually pretty good landing page. CodeSnap is probably something similar like cursors' 'apply' but double.bot landing page feels more like documentation. Also at this stage probably worth to add additional comparison to cursor same like you have for copilot

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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post #31

As someone who has recently tried to refactor our app atop of VSCode (treating it like a platform), we got burned by the UI design decisions that are not straightforward to overcome, let alone maintain. The closed-source MS marketplace did not help either towards our OSS goals. However, I found Theia ( https://theia-ide.org ) on HN (like a bunch of other cool things; this is one way I justify the time I spend/sink on…

Thanks for sharing! If Theia is built on top of monaco, I wonder if a form of one-click switch might work. The monaco editor is theoretically part of the vscode repo, while the "workbench" with settings/configs lives one layer up.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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post #63

This investment by YC in both Void and Continue.dev perfectly exemplifies the VC spray-and-pray approach by backing two nearly identical open-source VSCode plugins for AI-assisted coding. They're simply throwing money at similar projects in the same space, hoping one will stick, without any special insight or reason why one should be more successful over another.

double.bot also backed by YC

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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post #66

I think more competition in the "AI Editor" space is good, but I have to ask – why not make it a VSCode extension? I feel it'd be much more accessible. Are there limitations in the extension APIs that make it hard to implement?

Hey, great question - you're right, extensions are more accessible - the thing is, there is no great way to build the native UI we'd want using them. For example, displaying the before-and-after is vital for us, and doesn't feel natural in an extension.

Extensions like Codeium do the most naive thing possible by writing something like >>>>>>> in your file, literally breaking syntax highlighting. Others like Copilot are super buggy.

Right now Void is built on top of an extension, but we're also modifying and hooking into parts of the IDE to make a more native UX.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extracting from cursor team [1] > VSCode extensions have very limited control over the UI of the editor. Our Command-K and Copilot++ features aren’t possible as extensions. Same for much of what we want to build in the future! [1] https://forum.cursor.com/t/why-not-a-plugin/2448/2

I don't fancy a future of multiple diverging VSCode forks. I wonder if they could have created a "Super Plugin" interface instead of a Cursor specific fork and try to get it merged to VSCode or VSCodium or at least keep as a new shared platform for deep customisation instead of balkanisation by everyone interested in doing something similar.

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Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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I’d love a good summary on why Cursor, Void (and I assume other tools) decided to build new editors instead of just extending the incumbents (VSCode extension, Jetbrains plugins). Is there a technical limitation of the extension APIs or is it easier to “market” a new editor than an editor extension? While adoption for individuals and small companies might be easy, a lot of bigger places already have other integration…

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