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I super duper highly recommend iterm2 (macos) + its integrated tmux support. It was relatively popular in my circles at google when I was there. It comes with this tool’s benefit of native scrolling/cp paste PLUS the huge benefit of “right click to split vertical/horizontal”.
I am much happier with that muscle memory than whatever the iterm shortcuts would be.
For me tmux is everything. But I have been looking for 2 utilities they may not exist. - tty keystroke router: A program that lets you send keystrokes to different tty's (ideally tmux sessions) but not taking over the actual terminal (so sort of a background application , a daemon that listen to a certain key bind and upon pressing it will route all the keypresses to a certain tty/tmux session. - tty screen real esta…
If you can extend your terminal window across your two monitors and run `tcvt` within it, that might suit your purposes.
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It's definitely not a complete alternative, but a surprising number of tmux users are only in it for the session persistence. We did a little internal (criminally underpowered and confounded) survey of some tmux users at google and found that half of them were only really using it for session persistence. I was really surprised by this and thought more people would be using all the slick tiling features that tmux has…
I think there is a whole group of vim + tmux people out there and their primary use case may not be session persistence, but to construct an IDE like environment, which is also my use case.
I did notice they have a vt100 emulator, but it's only used for screen restore?
It seems the focus of the tool is for reconnecting from the same machine.
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Hi. Nice kit. > I couldn't use my normal `i3`/`sway` bindings to switch between terminals inside a tmux session Just curious, what are your normal 'i3'/'sway' bindings that you cannot get to work with tmux ? And what actual terminal program do you use ? Perhaps tmux wants more config than most people care to bother with, but scrollback and copy-paste can be configured just as you like.
If you’re using a tiling window manager your window switch keybindings necessarily conflict between the manager and tmux, since if you configure the same one and then press it while focused on a tmux window, the tiling window manager will override tmux and claim the event. Scrollback and copy paste cannot always be configured as you want. I’ve shared some specifics elsewhere in this thread.
"The main way that shpool differs from tmux is that tmux is a terminal multiplexer which necessarily means that it offers session persistence features, while shpool only aims to be a session persistence tool. In contrast to tmux the philosophy of shpool is that managing different terminals is the job of your display or window manager, not your session persistence tool." What if the computer user does not use a window…
On the other hand if your use case is just windowing on a single host (local only or remote only) then probably stick with tmux.
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Nohup still attaches to the terminal's stdin/out/err. If the process is known to be non-interactive, redirecting to log files should be sufficient (tail -f to "reattach"). If it does expect interaction, creating a fifo file to redirect stdin from should work, but I've never tested it.
nohub doesn't attach nor redirect the stdin/out/err, it intercepts the HUP signal that apps receive when their controlling TTYs are disconnected. Implying "tail -f $LOGFILE" is akin to tmux reattaching to a console is a stretch.
tmux/screen do not break copy-paste. And that tmux/screen have their own scrollback is a feature.
The selling point for shpool is simplicity, which I appreciate. I need terminal multiplexing, but I might use shpool here and there.
I always found tmux and screen clunky to use when all I wanted was the persistence so this project is right up my alley.
I super duper highly recommend iterm2 (macos) + its integrated tmux support. It was relatively popular in my circles at google when I was there. It comes with this tool’s benefit of native scrolling/cp paste PLUS the huge benefit of “right click to split vertical/horizontal”.