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Re: Show HN: Struct – A Feed-Centric Chat Platform

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Post by mrjn » Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 4:39 AM UTC

d1sxeyes wrote: post #133

vatican_banker wrote: post #55

Countless tools have promised to highlight "what's worth my attention". None of them have worked for me or my team. What's different on Struct? A few questions I jotted down while watching the video on Struct's landing page: 1. the concept of channels seems to be important on Struct as channels are the starting point of threads/feeds. Could you clarify the concept of channels on Struct? Is it just a concept to group…

The problem is that everyone wants to screen their calls but no one wants _their_ call screened. People will keep finding ways to steal your attention if they want it (starting new threads, etc).

This would be a bigger problem in community use cases. We're going to introduce a trust level system to tackle this, inspired by Discourse:

https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-t...

Re: Show HN: Struct – A Feed-Centric Chat Platform

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Post by ckok » Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 5:12 PM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #42

iuffxguy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks cool, but unfortunately another company that treats single sign-on as a luxury feature, not a core security requirement by jacking the price way up to get SAML support. Companies really need to stop doing this.

Single-sign-on is a large and painful feature to develop, that most people don't need, and that the companies that need it are willing to pay for. It's the perfect candidate for a higher-tier pricing structure. This makes much more sense than tiering on a feature that everyone needs.

Sso should be the default really. And as a starting point every language has openid connect implemented. Yes it needs work but surely better than the average password reuse?

For large and small companies surely the best way to maintain their users

Re: Show HN: Struct – A Feed-Centric Chat Platform

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Post by strogonoff » Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 12:37 AM UTC

iuffxguy wrote: post #22

strogonoff wrote: post #17

Can’t recommend enough Zulip. First-class topics, tools for organizing messages between streams & topics, open-source self-hostable, no engagement of ML out of the box (but probably possible thanks to Python plugin support), Vim-like keyboard shortcuts.

Looks cool, but unfortunately another company that treats single sign-on as a luxury feature, not a core security requirement by jacking the price way up to get SAML support. Companies really need to stop doing this.

I see it as an open-source product that you are free to run in whatever fashion you like, behind SSO or not. For a place for contributors to chat about an open-source project, for example, it’s hard to see how SSO is a must.

Demanding SSO from Zulip would be like demanding SSO from self-hostable Discourse, Jitsi, etc.