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Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by Rauchg »

abofh wrote: post #99
Rauchg wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would love to dig into your support issues. Let me know: rauchg@vercel.com

And if the support team had done so, I'd have nothing to converse about :) After digging upwards, additional support seems like an option delivered too late, and too outside of 'proper' channels - if you want a sanitized rant I can probably deliver it tomorrow, but too-little too-late is where vercel has landed in the operations team.

Always looking for the meta-feedback as well on how we can improve support. So, both pieces of feedback welcome!

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by pieter_mj »

sva_ wrote: post #85
rustyminnow wrote: post #46

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https://ublockorigin.com/ After install go to "Filter Lists" > Import ... > and add the url of the "list"... which is actually from a different repo: https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-clean-filter... Note: this apparently works for fewer sites than the linked extension.

> Note: this apparently works for fewer sites than the linked extension. Still, this is great to know because it can then be used on Firefox mobile.

Addons are coming for firefox mobile. If you can't wait, you can install any addon you want with firefox nightly.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by godelski »

yubiox wrote: post #118
Beijinger wrote: post #87

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Does not work so well anymore. Better use a bookmarklet javascript:location.href=' https://archive.is/?run=1&url=%27+encodeURIComponent(documen...

Not sure what happened here but the end of that is chopped off. Trying to fix it: javascript:location.href='https://archive.is/?run=1&url=%27+encodeURIComponent(document.location.href)+%27'

Not sure this is a good solution considering archive's fuckery

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by omoikane »

ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #54
tiagod wrote: post #42

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Google publishes IP ranges for GoogleBot. You can also reverse-lookup the request IP address - the resolved domain should in turn resolve to the original address.

Does anyone else remember 10 years ago when Google would penalize sites for serving different content to GoogleBot than to normal users? Those were the days.

> Google would penalize sites for serving different content to GoogleBot than to normal users

Listed under spam policies:

https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-po...

   "Cloaking refers to the practice of presenting different content to users and search engines with the intent to manipulate search rankings and mislead users"
The top of the pages says sites that violate the policies may "rank lower or not appear in results at all".

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by qingcharles »

gumby wrote: post #69

The README says "The author does not endorse or encourage any unethical or illegal activity." Is it actually illegal anywhere to bypass a paywall?

Certainly in Illinois it would be a crime to violate the TOS of a website. Misdemeanor for first offense, felony for second, IIRC.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by nfriedly »

The docker image, and on the upside is fairly easy to get running. But I'm downside, I'm zero for two actually using it.

I tried a Bloomberg article which gave me a "suspicious activity from your IP, please fill out this captcha" page, only the captcha was broken and didn't load.

Then I tried a WSJ article which loaded basically the same couple of paragraphs that I could get for free, but did not load any of the rest of the content.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by quickthrower2 »

qingcharles wrote: post #145
gumby wrote: post #69

The README says "The author does not endorse or encourage any unethical or illegal activity." Is it actually illegal anywhere to bypass a paywall?

Certainly in Illinois it would be a crime to violate the TOS of a website. Misdemeanor for first offense, felony for second, IIRC.

Can’t be that simple. What if TOS has ridiculous shit in it. Stuff about life long servitude to the webmasters pet goldfish, for example?

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by 2cpu1container »

donohoe wrote: post #71

I use services like this as I often skip news site paywalls because I just can't afford, nor is it practical, to have so many subscriptions. That said, I work in news media (and have been involved in building paywalls at different orgs - NYT and New Yorker). I know how money for these directly support journalism - salaries and the costs with associated with any story. If you are skipping paywalls a lot, I would encou…

I can fully agree on that.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by rahulroy9202 »

godelski wrote: post #143
yubiox wrote: post #118

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Not sure what happened here but the end of that is chopped off. Trying to fix it: javascript:location.href='https://archive.is/?run=1&url=%27+encodeURIComponent(document.location.href)+%27'

Not sure this is a good solution considering archive's fuckery

What did archive do?

Re: Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io

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Post by basch »

orpheansodality wrote: post #97
mejthemage wrote: post #80

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There's a huge need for subscription bundles. I'd gladly pay $20/mo for access to a bunch of big names, even if I'm limited to like 60 articles per month combined across those sources. Instead I just don't pay anyone, turn back when I encounter a paywall and look for someone's summary if I'm really interested.

Isn’t that the value-prop of Apple News?

Apple News is a bit of a discovery pain in the neck. If I have a 5 year old Atlantic article, I can’t just click the article and have it open in Apple News. I can’t search for it. If the article is any older, the magazine won’t appear at all.
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