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Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by xwolfi »

rvnx wrote: post #136
motoxpro wrote: post #7

Man. What an absolute GENIUS way to get people to not post ChatGPT answers. Just put them there from there from the start. "Burn the boats"

The main point of answering to StackOverflow questions is to earn points, points that you can show on your CV :) "Top StackOverflow expert on XX", so the incentive is still there. One solution to spam could be to keep the voting system, but not publicly reward users with points (like on HN).

Have you seen people do that ? Would make me terrified to hire the dude "will he be paid to post answers to other companies' employees?" :D

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by xwolfi »

dustyharddrive wrote: post #49
motoxpro wrote: post #7

Man. What an absolute GENIUS way to get people to not post ChatGPT answers. Just put them there from there from the start. "Burn the boats"

GPT output isn’t deterministic though?

It is deterministic, no ? Do they have some entropy source they use?

Maybe it's chaotic like you and me, but it cant be non deterministic, it'd mean it doesnt even really answer questions and just spout random tidbits :s

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by gbear605 »

xwolfi wrote: post #142
dustyharddrive wrote: post #49

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GPT output isn’t deterministic though?

It is deterministic, no ? Do they have some entropy source they use? Maybe it's chaotic like you and me, but it cant be non deterministic, it'd mean it doesnt even really answer questions and just spout random tidbits :s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

They use a rand() function as part of the input. I don’t think they have a source of true randomness they use, but it’s random enough for any practical purpose.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by cfuendev »

sirtomato wrote: post #38
oefrha wrote: post #21

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Lol just yesterday I saw an eight year old answer on SO neatly solving my problem, except the API was hallucinated. Humans have been hallucinating APIs for far longer.

The first time I read this I thought it meant it was an eight year old person answering your question.

Lol same

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by wokwokwok »

matsemann wrote: post #76
matisseverduyn wrote: post #75

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> From your long rant, I'm not sure if you're coming off any better. To me it sounds like SO should be happy someone like you isn't contributing. Is quite a harsh personal attack, and probably contributes to the author's feelings regarding hostility and gatekeeping.

They're the one saying people at SO aren't nice. My guess is just that the person feels that way after getting pushback from their own behavior / attitude. I feel it's a trend, I see lots of toxic comments from people "having given up SO", and I think to myself that it's a good thing.. But you're right, I should've avoided going personal.

No, by all means go right ahead.

I literally not do care remotely what you, or other folk like you on SO say. :)

You’re why I no longer go there.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by stefncb »

NorwegianDude wrote: post #97
stefncb wrote: post #71

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The chatgpt output comes in chunks from openai's servers themselves, it can't get computed instantly. There's no way for this plugin to do what you want it to do.

OpenAI could return it instantly if they wanted.

Maybe, maybe not, but that's not the point. The original comment was blaming the plugin, which is not fair.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by [deleted] »

matsemann wrote: post #132
animuchan wrote: post #128

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Oh, the XY people are the worst on SO. Here's the latest example I've seen: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57121467/import-a-module... Please see the comments under the OP. While the question is technically sound (I've needed this exact thing for a REPL I was writing), the comments are perfectly useless, self-entitled and discouraging drivel. Notable example: > This is an incredibly odd thing to ask (emphasis th…

I don't see the problem there at all . They ask a question with some weird requirements, people ask why those requirements are in place as it makes it hard to solve, the asker explains why. Everything is good.

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Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by emodendroket »

avereveard wrote: post #131
yladiz wrote: post #92

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No, it wasn’t “not ‘welcoming’”, it was just “not welcoming”. Sure it’s the owners who forced this, but it’s not a bad thing to be more welcoming and thinking otherwise because “it’s better” is problematic. You should also blame the owners for not giving a shit about moderation for the low quality of things now, if you want to blame them for the push for being “welcoming”.

You can be welcoming and still enforce guidelines, it's not an either/or situation.

At the end of the day enforcing guidelines involves telling people "sorry, this is not the kind of question we want here," and people are always going to find this less than welcoming -- justifiably so, since they've objectively been excluded. You can be as nice as you want about it, and I'm not advocating being rude or cruel, but it doesn't matter.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by nkozyra »

throwanem wrote: post #126
nkozyra wrote: post #34

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On the other hand, it's a great way to get a contact at SO, assuming anyone other than lawyers finds out about it.

No one other than lawyers or lawyer accessories is going to represent the company to the domain owner about it, though. Source: Ages ago I had a personal domain based on a longstanding nick that happened to partially coincide with the name of a major motion picture studio. That it was a paralegal who called me said they weren't anxious to take it seriously, and all they were really after was just getting me to say it…

> No one other than lawyers or lawyer accessories is going to represent the company to the domain owner about it, though.

Of course. Here's the plausible chain of events:

1. Someone at the co. reads about this on HN 2. They tell their boss who might tell their boss, etc. 3. It finally gets to someone who is responsible for telling the lawyers. But they also say "hey this is kind of cool. We'll send a C&D, but maybe reach out to see if there's anything interesting there."

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Post by Lockal »

Stratoscope wrote: post #82
NorwegianDude wrote: post #67

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Tell him what? It is annoying that they don't return the output instantly. This does throttle usage, so I can see why they do it, but it is annoying.

I asked ChatGPT about this: "Why are ChatGPT responses written a few words at a time?" It replied, a few words at a time: - - - The responses are broken up into smaller chunks for several reasons: 1. Better readability: Breaking up the responses into smaller pieces makes it easier for users to read and understand the information being provided. 2. Interactivity: ChatGPT's response format allows for a back-and-forth i…

Yes, a great example of bullshit from ChatGPT.

For those who don't know, it is like Markov Chains: probability of next word (or a group of words encoded as a token) is calculated based on previous words and computationally intensive. It just uses not just probability between 1-2 previous tokens, it uses 2048 token window (roughly 1500 words) to predict next token, then puts next token into window and goes on.

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