Telemetry for a beta? Sure, whatever, y'all are being transparent about what is being collected and, as a developer, I can definitely understand the desire to collect information about usage to improve the experience.
Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#142Anyone know how this lines up to other terminals performance wise. I’ve been pretty happy with alacritty, but would be willing to try a terminal with more features. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty
I feel like a crazy person in this thread because I’ve literally never had the thought: “I could be so much more productive but this damn terminal is slowing me down”.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good question! We did an initial benchmark of scrolling back in July against Terminal, iTerm, Hyper, Kitty, and Alacritty, if you’re interested: https://www.warp.dev/blog/how-warp-works . We started by forking Alacritty's model and parser and because we have a similar architecture (Rust-based, rendered on the GPU) we should generally be at, or near, the performance of Alacritty.
I just ran a quick test using Casey Muratori's termbench ( https://github.com/cmuratori/termbench ) you are an order of magnitude slower than Alacritty, and also significantly slower than iTerm. Warp also locks up pretty severely and only shows a new frame once every few seconds during most of the run. Alacritty CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9880H CPU @ 2.30GHz VT support: no ManyLine: 1.5670s (0.0399gb/s) LongLine: 1.12…
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#144Wanted to give it a shot but got disappointed when I launched it and the following happened: - Outgoing request to googleapis.com - Outgoing request to segment.io - Outgoing request to sentry.io - Requires sign up (only via Github, mind you) I understand the first request is probably to get some dynamic configuration, even though I'd rather my terminal ship with static configuration. But then you have segment and sen…
I'm not sure I'm ready to have SaaS models replace core utilities and tools locally. > Announcing Warp’s Series A: $17M to build a better terminal And just thinking about this... it's not clear to me what their moat will be as I suspect if there's a really compelling feature it will be available in OSS terminals quite quickly. Perhaps it's the product polish? But I'm not sure polish is what I want from a terminal, at…
FWIW, the Warp terminal will be free for individuals. We would never charge for anything a terminal currently does. So no paywalls around SSH or anything like that. The types of features we could eventually charge for are team features.
Our bet is that the moat is going to be the team features, like:
- Sharing hard-to-remember workflows
- Wikis and READMEs that run directly in the terminal
- Session sharing for joint debugging
Our bet is their companies are willing to pay for these. BTW, even these team features will likely be free up to some level of usage and only charged in a company context.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#145> Telemetry > When Warp comes out of beta, telemetry will be opt-in and anonymous. > But for our beta phase, we do send telemetry by default and we do associate it with the logged in user because it makes it much easier to reach out and get feedback when something goes wrong. This is a hard pass for me, it looks really amazing though. I'm so tired of telemetry, how do we quit our day jobs to focus on open source? ;-;
I expect someone will fork shortly and remove all the telemetry
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
For what it's worth, if the keybindings you want are Vim or Emacs-like, you can get this behavior in Bash or Zsh (or probably other terminals) with literally one line of configuration.
I want it to behave like every other text input field on my Mac. So I can do option+left/right to jump words, Cmd+left/right to jump to beginning/end of a line, shift + move cursor to highlight text, Cmd+A to select all, option + forward delete to delete the whole word in front of my cursor, etc
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#147I've been loving Warp since discovering it on HN a few months back. I was originally drawn in by how it treats text input like a regular text input field out of the box, so I don't have to configure anything and my normal text editing shortcuts just work. But the other features of it have been really great too. I like the terminal splitting, the history searching, the command palette, and no performance issues I've n…
For what it's worth, if the keybindings you want are Vim or Emacs-like, you can get this behavior in Bash or Zsh (or probably other terminals) with literally one line of configuration.
Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal
#148> Telemetry > When Warp comes out of beta, telemetry will be opt-in and anonymous. > But for our beta phase, we do send telemetry by default and we do associate it with the logged in user because it makes it much easier to reach out and get feedback when something goes wrong. This is a hard pass for me, it looks really amazing though. I'm so tired of telemetry, how do we quit our day jobs to focus on open source? ;-;
Warp engineer here. I understand your concern. We will remove telemetry when we enter general availability. It will be opt-in and anonymous. We really want to improve the product quickly during this beta phase. Collecting data makes it much easier to reach out and get feedback when something goes wrong. But we only track metadata, never console output. For an exhaustive list of events that we track, see here: https:/…
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure I'm ready to have SaaS models replace core utilities and tools locally. > Announcing Warp’s Series A: $17M to build a better terminal And just thinking about this... it's not clear to me what their moat will be as I suspect if there's a really compelling feature it will be available in OSS terminals quite quickly. Perhaps it's the product polish? But I'm not sure polish is what I want from a terminal, at…
Warp engineer here. FWIW, the Warp terminal will be free for individuals. We would never charge for anything a terminal currently does. So no paywalls around SSH or anything like that. The types of features we could eventually charge for are team features. Our bet is that the moat is going to be the team features, like: - Sharing hard-to-remember workflows - Wikis and READMEs that run directly in the terminal - Sessi…