Doesn't AI generated art violate the whole definition of art?
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#142The written code to create these images has a copyright, but the generated images themselves do not.
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#143Doesn't AI generated art violate the whole definition of art?
Depends on how meta you want to be. This output requires skilled application of software development and aesthetic judgement. You could call that the 'art'.
Or maybe it's synthetic art or simulated art.
Either way I feel it has value.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not trying to denigrate artists, but as somebody that admittedly doesn't appreciate art, I'm still not sure how artists aren't just pastiche image maker themselves. Based on your comment, I'm not entirely clear what the difference is
A lot of art is exactly that, but it's usually very obvious. As it is in these pictures.
I find this whole discussion quite interesting: There seem to be many people who think these photos are pretty much just like what you see in an art gallery, and others who say that it's obviously just inspirationless imitation.
Comparing this to generated music -- every time there's a "quiz" challenging to distinguish computer-generated snippets of music from real classical music, I've gotten 100%. The key difference is that the computer-generated music I've heard so far is just one musical idea after the other; it doesn't seem to have intent or motion. (Much like GPT-2 style text: a single sentence looks reasonable; once you get to several paragraphs, it completely stops "hanging together".)
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#145Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…
What I think would be interesting would be to add a human discriminator test: Can you tell genuine cubist art from computer-generated cubist art?
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#146Not trying to denigrate the amazing technical skill needed to make this thing, but from the point of view of someone who makes art, this is a pastiche image maker. I have yet to see AI generate anything that's not a combination of existing images and techniques. Probably wading into murky philosophical waters here but I reckon art needs to be more than a nice 'arty' looking image to be considered any good. If you are…
I agree with you. I think the reason AI hasn't made anything but derivatives is in part because machines are not sentient. 100% of AI is machine learning, there is no heart or conscience. However art is anything that moves you and the paintings on this website are most definitely moving to me. I find them terrifying and a lot of that has to do with the fact that a machine made them. There isn't anything really grotes…
> 100% of AI is machine learning, there is no heart or conscience.
And, because AI implies heart and/or conscience, ML is a much better term because it is more accurate and describing.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you have an opportunity here --- I found myself wondering how much it would cost to get a nice-quality print on canvas or metal. Something I could hang in my office. They look that good. Are they (or could they be) generated in sufficiently high resolution for a large format print?
Working in an office decorated by a bot is the most demoralizing experience I could imagine. I would probably go into an existential rage and start breaking things until someone more physically powerful came and subdued me.
Sure, once those things are common place it'll be dystopian; but for now it's just a fun conversation starter.
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#148Reminds me of Debris by a NullSoft employee. It would download random pictures using a search engine, and it would craft it together. The end result is unique, and allowed you to look into the details. You could even edit the search terms or the result, add cameos (some vague nudity, for example). What I found really funny though, is that the end results often had actual funny easter eggs. I guess if you add up all of this randomness, and you watch closely, the chances of something funny being included increase. It just might take a while till you find it.
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#149Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…
What is the input to produce one of these images (aside from the pre-trained model)?
Is it a random number or another image or something else?
Let's say you wanted to re-render the exact same image given the same state of your pre-trained model, what information would you use here?
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#150This is indistinguishable from something that would be hanging in an art museum, and anyone pretending otherwise only believes so because they know a priori that it is generated by ML. Honestly I would consider buying something like this, though I'd never waste my money on something so pretentious from a human. This, however, is an achievement, and there's beauty in that. Edit: in fact, if love to see two tests: a bl…
I don't it's fair to call it pretentious if from a human but beautiful if from a computer. You even said it yourself > ... anyone pretending otherwise only believes so because they know a priori that it is generated by ML. To me, a large part of an artworks beauty comes from its ability to make me feel something. These works make me feel nothing at all. So I cannot call them beautiful.
Do paintings by elephants make you feel anything?
The only reason these are indistinguishable from "pretentious" paintings is because those were used for a training set. Use a "non-pretentious" set and you will get corresponding generated art. Particular images generated are almost not the point, in my opinion.
Many human paintings make me feel nothing at all.