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Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by jonathan-kosgei »

always_good wrote: post #110

I think "a prenup for home videos" might be the worst marketing angle possible. It sounds like a legal contract. But, worse, it makes it sound like it's only something you should use if you don't trust the other person. Instead, they should market it as "2fa for sex tapes" rather than a trust issue by itself and point to things like "the fappening" icloud social engineering hack. I can't imagine many people using thi…

+1 for pointing out "keep your private videos private/safe, from third-parties " would be a better marketing angle

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by emodendroket »

gkya wrote: post #100
hellofunk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expected my colleagues to respect the things I do in private and realize I'm just human. And at the very least, if they were going to publicly respond, I'd have expected them to compliment me instead.

> things I do in private When you let it be recorded and the recording be possessed by someone else, it's practically public, as you can't control what'll happen in future and there will always be mean people that'll try to bully you for that sort of thing. I'm sad that it's caused you harm, but I guess in such situations showing confidence might work.

Would you respond the same way to someone whose spouse emptied out their bank accounts and ran off?

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by emodendroket »

yomly wrote: post #103
Thrillington wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if you end up being ejected from a group it was justified because you didn't belong there. Nice logic.

I don't think the intent in the above comment re. auto-eject was malicious. It's about equilibrium, phrased in more common-speak they're better off without them, as they're clearly gossipy/close-minded people.

If only that sort of righteousness paid the rent.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by emodendroket »

DannyBee wrote: post #123
hellofunk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expected my colleagues to respect the things I do in private and realize I'm just human. And at the very least, if they were going to publicly respond, I'd have expected them to compliment me instead.

"I expected my colleagues to respect the things I do in private and realize I'm just human." So basically, you bet that people would overcome millions of years of human psychology? While I agree with you it would be nice if that happened (really nice!), i wouldn't expect that to happen for a long long time.

Hell, why even bother criminalizing murder or theft when murder and theft have happened in every culture in the history of time? It's only human nature, after all.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by emodendroket »

swalsh wrote: post #113
shiado wrote: post #81

This is a really cool concept. But ultimately you cannot get past the analog hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole

Reminds of that time someone invented dropbox, and one of the top comments was "For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software."

To my mind it's a bit different in that this guy is saying the software can't actually guarantee what it's supposed to, and not that it could be accomplished with more trouble.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by beagle3 »

swalsh wrote: post #113
shiado wrote: post #81

This is a really cool concept. But ultimately you cannot get past the analog hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole

Reminds of that time someone invented dropbox, and one of the top comments was "For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software."

Totally irrelevant. The response to Dropbox you describe was "meh, easily done with existing tools". The analog hole response is "no app can provide what users would assume this app provides"

I think the comparison to Snapchat is more relevant: Snapchat is expected to provide only temporary access, but cannot guarantee that. This did not impede snapchat's growth, and might not really be an issue for rumuki; however, the use context is different so the comparison is not very informative.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by JoachimSchipper »

iak8god wrote: post #84
lookACamel wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea is that during the relationship both parties are at peace so neither party will have any desire to do something underhanded like recording the video from another phone. This app addresses the problem that occurs when the relationship ends on a bad note and one party has to the urge to harm the other through whatever means necessary.

This is pretty naive though. Everyone so far who's ever sent me, er, "home videos" has later decided to stop sending me such content and would probably revoke my access to it if they could. Maybe I'm just a sneaky jerk, but backing up content that I would like to see again seems like something I'd try regardless of how the relationship was at the time. I don't mean anyone harm and I'd not distribute someone's videos…

Don't you think that's rather creepy?

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by ZenoArrow »

Thrillington wrote: post #97
moron4hire wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get the point of handcuffs in the bedroom, but some people like them, so that's up to them. If you don't understand someone's sexual preference, the correct response is no response. You're not obligated to comment on everything.

But if I don't comment the conversation isn't about me anymore!

It was never just about you, it's about you and others. If your only contribution is along the lines of "doesn't look like something I have a use for", perhaps it's best to leave the discussion to people that would use it and/or try to learn a bit behind why those preferences exist.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by iak8god »

ant6n wrote: post #129
iak8god wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty naive though. Everyone so far who's ever sent me, er, "home videos" has later decided to stop sending me such content and would probably revoke my access to it if they could. Maybe I'm just a sneaky jerk, but backing up content that I would like to see again seems like something I'd try regardless of how the relationship was at the time. I don't mean anyone harm and I'd not distribute someone's videos…

So let's say you go through the hoops to use this app. Then you'd immediately break that trust, while still in the relationship, by recording the videos?

Yes. For me it would depend on the nature of the relationship (and "maybe I'm a sneaky jerk"). But often people send each other "home videos", or create them together, outside of what I'd consider a Relationship (love & trust & all that jazz).

Isn't that exactly what Rumuki is trying to solve? If there's enough trust in the relationship in question, the people involved should just solve this with the conversation: "hey, did you delete that video after watching it like we agreed?" / "yep, you?" / "yep".

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by iak8god »

JoachimSchipper wrote: post #147
iak8god wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty naive though. Everyone so far who's ever sent me, er, "home videos" has later decided to stop sending me such content and would probably revoke my access to it if they could. Maybe I'm just a sneaky jerk, but backing up content that I would like to see again seems like something I'd try regardless of how the relationship was at the time. I don't mean anyone harm and I'd not distribute someone's videos…

Don't you think that's rather creepy?

I do, but see my further clarification below. In any case, it doesn't matter whether I personally would do this. It's clear to me that a bunch of people would.

And I KNOW complaining about downvotes is like the HN kiss of death, but whoever hit that down arrow because they disapprove of my (hypothetical) conduct should really rethink their use of HN votes.

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