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Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by zamalek » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 9:34 AM UTC

cbd1984 wrote: post #129

zamalek wrote: post #106

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> I want free speech except I want people I don't like to not have it. No, actually, koko very loosely defined actual free speech. In a nutshell free speech means that you can say whatever you please so long as you don't venture into what the American courts call "fighting words" (words/images designed to cause harm to another person or words/images that inspire others to cause harm to another person). Example: Let's…

That isn't how "fighting words" is defined.

> ... and the insulting or "fighting words" those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. — Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942

Uh, yes it is. If you're going to take the time to tell me that I'm wrong, you might actually also take the time to correct me. Not only was your statement incorrect but it added absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

#132

Post by Shorel » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 7:45 PM UTC

iLoch wrote: post #49

bhouston wrote: post #39

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Diss Voat.co as much as you want, but so far Voat.co is actually a pretty huge success: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/voat.co

I don't think minimaxir was "dissing" voat.co, just stating facts. As for voat's success, I can't see how it can ever hope to supersede reddit - or even come close to competing with reddit - given that it is indeed a blatant clone. There's no real redeeming qualities of voat that are not already present on Reddit.

And digg was 'inspired' by slashdot and reddit stole digg userbase.

It's the community and moderators who make the site, not only the technology.

Therefore all redeeming qualities lie in the respective users of those sites, and less in the programming.

Voat is just starting and reddit is perfectly capable of performing a 'digg' and alienate its users.

Let's wait and see.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by duncan_bayne » Mon, Jun 29, 2015, 12:22 AM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #128

duncan_bayne wrote: post #127

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Sorry, I don't understand. It looks (to an outsider) like politicians are selectively enforcing nebulous 'hate speech' laws to silence people they don't like. How is that not a built-in feature of hate speech laws?

I don't quite understand your complaint. You say the UK doesn't have freedom of speech; you demonstrate that by giving an example of people who do have freedom of speech; you then mention people who are banned from entering the UK, but those people are banned because there is a risk of violence; you then say that that rule is not applied to violent Islamists who live in the country. Of course it isn't! They live here…

"but those people are banned because there is a risk of violence"

No, they're banned because their speech is so unpopular amongst a small but violent group of the population, that the Govt. would rather they weren't allowed to speak there.

That's a freedom of speech issue, not a border control issue.

If the Govt. were functioning properly, it would uphold its duty to protect unpopular speech by preventing (or at least attempting to prevent) violence directed at them. Instead, they just close their doors.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by cbd1984 » Wed, Jul 01, 2015, 4:56 AM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #131

cbd1984 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't how "fighting words" is defined.

> ... and the insulting or "fighting words" those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. — Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942 Uh, yes it is. If you're going to take the time to tell me that I'm wrong, you might actually also take the time to correct me. Not only was your statement incorrect but it added absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Uh, no, fighting words means something that's immediate, as in you're literally right in front of them insulting them and they punch you in the nose.

It can't be done over the Internet.