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Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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I think you may be overthinking it. If you just created a document with each hierarchy organized properly, I think you should be fine. E.g. you create say 3 heading sizes in Word. 24px, 20px, 16px. Then for the main point, i.e. the content in the left-most column, you put those under a heading that is under the 24px - then any sub content from the 2nd column would go under a 20px heading that is under the first 24px…

I love overthinking things! It's true that if every card had a title, then import and export while maintaining the tree structure would be easy. But as it stands, if you have the following cards: A A.1 A.2 B this approach wouldn't be able to maintain the structure if the cards didn't have titles (it would just list all these as A, A.1, A.2, B). It's for this reason alone that we've considered making titles required f…

You could enforce it like that - i.e. require all cards to have titles.

But I don't think you NEED to.

I would assume that the way you know the order of the cards, is that you have some unique ID on the flow of the cards, no?

E.g. You know that A is first, then A.1, then A.2, then B.

So all you do is when you are exporting to PDF, you put the sections/cards in that order.

I think that should suffice, or am I missing something?

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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That said, my being in the wrong place doesn't change the fact that startups and capitalism are both lame and evil and retarded. I think you should still consider and perhaps respond to the point instead of just discounting it because its out of place.

Well, I thought I did, but I interpreted your point more narrowly: that no proprietary app from some startup would ever be able to revolutionize authoring and reading works, replacing PDFs and their ilk for academics and research. I agreed. If your point is the much broader contention that capitalism is lame and evil and retarded in general, that's a little beyond the scope of what can be resolved on HN.

Well, originally, my point was slightly more broad... I'd intended to insinuate that, given that this particular startup had taken this demonstratedly flawed route, and that I can't really think of that many startups that don't use this sort of bullshit rhetoric and mentality to promote themselves, the criticism largely extends to startups in general. Capitalism, yes, I'd agree is probably beyond the scope of HN.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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That said, my being in the wrong place doesn't change the fact that startups and capitalism are both lame and evil and retarded. I think you should still consider and perhaps respond to the point instead of just discounting it because its out of place.

You might benefit from reading this: http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2008-summer/stand...

You might benefit from not reading stupid, objectivist bullshit.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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I certainly did. I started with HN when I was messed up and depressed and wanted to fill my mind with crap that was completely contrarian to everything I believe as a form of self-destruction. Every once in a while there's something important that I get from HN, which is why I've kept coming back since starting to get better. Some time ago I decided it really wasn't worth it, and I haven't yet quit because I'm just o…

>I'll get around to quitting soon though. dont do it, i think is healthy to any community to have people with different perspectives.. also i dont consider HN a reddit for startups.. once in a while there are something about it.. (thanks god) but are not the majority view, unlike the previous post may picture startup culture its way off its limits.. and some people should get back to sanity again.. the only people ma…

:) This made me smile.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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I like it and have worked more or less like this for structuring documents all my life (but manually, in text files, making trees and creating documents from those trees with a small Python script). However, I really would like this to be a desktop application; all that online stuff is not very helpful for productivity software, for me at least. I live in the mountains, I don't have internet in a lot of places. When I travel I don't have (stable) internet either.

I like stuff going to the web, but until that works fully offline after installation (so being able to make new projects, save them, change them, do everything except the stuff which really requires internet), I don't really have much use for productivity apps like this.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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The hubris of the statement is not lost on me, but what should a founder be but delusional and optimistic :) 1. It's both a viewer and a word processor. It relies on Markdown (and LaTeX through extensions). We export to Md, but will be adding more import/export options in the future. We hope to create a publication standard for it. 2. The structure of the document is an "outline of index cards". Each card can have on…

Hi Adrioano, I've been working on a relatively similar, but much larger and very complex project (AI/Maths) for some years now. It makes me really happy to see people coming up with the vision of a "hypertext" perspective shift. Do you mind explaining why your surname is Ferrari?

"Hypertext" perspective shift... I like that. What's your project called? Can I see it?

PS: My ancestry goes: Italian > Argentinian > born in Kuwait > living in Canada. "Ferrari" means iron-worker in Italian, so it's not a rare surname in Italy.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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I like it and have worked more or less like this for structuring documents all my life (but manually, in text files, making trees and creating documents from those trees with a small Python script). However, I really would like this to be a desktop application; all that online stuff is not very helpful for productivity software, for me at least. I live in the mountains, I don't have internet in a lot of places. When…

Thanks for the feedback, and I'm glad you like it.

My cofounder is working on full offline support right now, as it's been a much requested feature.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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Hi Adrioano, I've been working on a relatively similar, but much larger and very complex project (AI/Maths) for some years now. It makes me really happy to see people coming up with the vision of a "hypertext" perspective shift. Do you mind explaining why your surname is Ferrari?

"Hypertext" perspective shift... I like that. What's your project called? Can I see it? PS: My ancestry goes: Italian > Argentinian > born in Kuwait > living in Canada. "Ferrari" means iron-worker in Italian, so it's not a rare surname in Italy.

Check your mail.

PS: Very interesting ancestry, wish I had more knowledge into my own. It led me to think that you might be related to the Ferrari Company somehow.

Re: Show HN: Gingko, a tree-document editor

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Adrioano, I've been working on a relatively similar, but much larger and very complex project (AI/Maths) for some years now. It makes me really happy to see people coming up with the vision of a "hypertext" perspective shift. Do you mind explaining why your surname is Ferrari?

"Hypertext" perspective shift... I like that. What's your project called? Can I see it? PS: My ancestry goes: Italian > Argentinian > born in Kuwait > living in Canada. "Ferrari" means iron-worker in Italian, so it's not a rare surname in Italy.

Check your mail (I'll probably land in your spam folder).

PS: Very interesting ancestry, wish I had more knowledge into my own. It led me to think that you might be related to the Ferrari Company somehow.

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