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Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#131

- can we get an extension that blocks all of ragebait, racist remarks, hostile comments on twitter - like it is literally trained on some data set to identify posts that are trying to bait people into commenting on them and simply hide such posts. - the world would be a far better place if we had such an extension

I'm afraid you just have to delete Twitter. The algorithm, is designed to push rage bait to the top.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#132
I'm interested in peoples thoughts about this. There are people in here that I generally respect, but on certain subjects I have seen comments that are not helpful. If I saw one of them first I might click 'foe' and then ignore them in the future.

And this seems normal. I have a friend in real life who I like talking to, we share some views, and vehemently disagree on other subjects. He likes to bring them up and I tend to divert the discussion because I don't want to lose them as a friend

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#133

I’d encourage a change of labels away from “friend/foe”. It may seem minor but the subtle loaded nature of those paired terms encourages an adversarial stance rather than one of productive discourse. It’s not catchy so there’s probably better than this but, just as an example— “engage/ignore” could better signal to the user a neutral “do I want to bother with this person?”

I see this as a very hn type commenting. Nitpicking over semantics rather than engaging the whole. Your comment is fine, but the whole response in the rest of the thread is boorish. I'm fine with friend or foe, because they are in reality, just coloured blobs

For once a "this is a very HN" comment seems earned but I think it just marks you at not really the target audience for HN

One of the reason we come to HN is that curiosity and caring about details is rewarded and makes for great discussion

Also your comment has no substance. I stand totally unimpressed by your opposition between the whole and the details and I fail to see how this is relevant. Care to explain what tackling the whole would look like ?

Or are you just trying to handwawe away some potential issue you are too lazy to consider just because you like the project ?

Note that IIRC the guidelines ask you to refrain from "This is HN/reddit" comments because they are fundamentally uninteresting (and lazy)

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#134
post #95

Thanks to the HN moderators for re-posting this after I posted this a few days ago. I only notice now that it's on the front page. Happy to answer any questions. Let me tell you, I've really enjoyed having those writers that I like highlighted on this comment thread because it makes it very easy to scan it. I think it's important to remember that this is not about hiding writers you disagree with. It's simply about m…

i clicked to fast. "please leave the link in your about section and it'll allow..." it will do what? i don't want to put ands there. what was the function of leaving it?

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this as a very hn type commenting. Nitpicking over semantics rather than engaging the whole. Your comment is fine, but the whole response in the rest of the thread is boorish. I'm fine with friend or foe, because they are in reality, just coloured blobs

For once a "this is a very HN" comment seems earned but I think it just marks you at not really the target audience for HN One of the reason we come to HN is that curiosity and caring about details is rewarded and makes for great discussion Also your comment has no substance. I stand totally unimpressed by your opposition between the whole and the details and I fail to see how this is relevant. Care to explain what t…

> I think it just marks you at not really the target audience for HN

This has some pretty serious connotations. I have been here for an awful long time for someone who is not a target audience, please take a moment of self reflection at that.

I don't think nitpicking is a synonym for 'caring about details'. I am acusing commenters of picking on unimportant details, and I'm acusing them of doing it because it is easier than the more substantive concerns that are further down the thread. It looks superficially clever, but is actually just pedantry.

> because you like the project ?

That kind of statement is intellectually dishonest. I wont be installing this extension, but not because of a name for the buttons that didn't form part of the UI.

> Note that IIRC the guidelines ask you to refrain from

Well, I just checked rather than relying on the my fallible memory and, and I don't believe it does. If you want to police people's comments, perhaps take a little more care.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#138

I'm interested in peoples thoughts about this. There are people in here that I generally respect, but on certain subjects I have seen comments that are not helpful. If I saw one of them first I might click 'foe' and then ignore them in the future. And this seems normal. I have a friend in real life who I like talking to, we share some views, and vehemently disagree on other subjects. He likes to bring them up and I t…

But marking someone as foe based on their first comment might be very misleading, not to speak of good practice of discussion despite of agreement or disagreement. I'm coming to the stage of my life that I try (sometimes hardly) to speak with people with which I disagree. It's my crusade against cancel culture. People are more than one dimensional and even if we disagree on one two dimensions we might agree on others, or just play D&D together sometime

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#139
Yeah, polarizing! /s

I have a better idea. Why not distinguish quality from non-quality by reading a series of characters and then deciding for yourself if you like the subject and tone of voice? People themselves can choose how many characters they use. Let's call these characters the alphabet.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#140

I’d encourage a change of labels away from “friend/foe”. It may seem minor but the subtle loaded nature of those paired terms encourages an adversarial stance rather than one of productive discourse. It’s not catchy so there’s probably better than this but, just as an example— “engage/ignore” could better signal to the user a neutral “do I want to bother with this person?”

I see this as a very hn type commenting. Nitpicking over semantics rather than engaging the whole. Your comment is fine, but the whole response in the rest of the thread is boorish. I'm fine with friend or foe, because they are in reality, just coloured blobs

I think there is a difference between “nitpicking” and “discussing” details. I personally do not see any nitpicking in OP’s comment, I rather see it as valuable and well-presented contribution to the general (wholistic) discussion.

To me, your response would have been just fine with only the last sentence.

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