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Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#131

What’s the difference between this, and just running Claude Code in —dangerously-skip-permissions mode in a container and accessing remotely via ssh? I’m confused as to what these claw agents actually offer.

The README.md describes it as:

WhatsApp (baileys) --> SQLite --> Polling loop --> Container (Claude Agent SDK) --> Response

So they basically put a Wrapper around Claude in a Container, which allows you to send messages from WhatsApp to Claude, and act somewhat as if you had a Siri on steriods.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#132
Stupid stuff openclaw did for me:

- Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must've done a bit more than that to get banned)

- Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by hammering the crap out of the docs api

- Used approx $2k worth of Kimi tokens (Thankfully temporarily free on opencode) in the space of approx 48hrs.

Unless you can budget $1k a week, this thing is next to useless. Once these free offers end on models a lot of people will stop using it, it's obscene how many tokens it burns through, like monumentally stupid. A simple single request is over 250k chars every single time. That's not sustainable.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#133
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t want to come off like I’m shitting on the poster here. I’ve definitely made that kind of careless mistake, probably a dozen times this week. And maybe we’re heading to a future where nobody even reads the readme anymore because they won’t be needed because an agent can just conjure one from the source code at will, so maybe it actually straight up doesn’t matter. I’ve just been thinking about what it means to…

> I don’t want to come off like I’m shitting on the poster Why not, if they're making people read AI slop without checking it first? They deserve the shit-nudge to fix it.

That seems like a fair perspective; OP “shit” AI Slop on us so the minimum the project deserves is being shit on for making people look at his unreviewed sloppy project without at least warning about it being unreviewed.

Just consider what a bigger AI shit show vortex we are looking at, where this project only exists because of other ill considered AI slop projects. But at the same time, AI is not going anywhere and it does have the potential to massively “improve” things.

I believe it’s really just that we are going through adaptation pains, with everyone really just being sloppy for all the same kinds of reasons that people were sloppy before AI. It’s not like even the biggest corporations didn’t create sloppy messes before AI. Microsoft is a canonical example of this whole notion for basically its whole existence; poorly conceived, sloppily executed, even its core product line being so inherently insecure that it has not just spun up its own separate sectors of industries, but multiple sectors of industries around patching the security sieve called Microsoft, something akin to a monopoly on plumbing created from wire mesh.

It is making me think of how to increase the quality of my QA and final review process though. But frankly, I think we will soon fondly reminisce about a time when AI still produced slop and a human was actually useful and even needed to do QA and final review; as bleak as that sounds. I don’t see how that will not be the case within two years from now, and that’s probably being generous, as fast as things have been developing.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#134

What’s the difference between this, and just running Claude Code in —dangerously-skip-permissions mode in a container and accessing remotely via ssh? I’m confused as to what these claw agents actually offer.

The README.md describes it as: WhatsApp (baileys) --> SQLite --> Polling loop --> Container (Claude Agent SDK) --> Response So they basically put a Wrapper around Claude in a Container, which allows you to send messages from WhatsApp to Claude, and act somewhat as if you had a Siri on steriods.

Found the spec here: https://github.com/gavrielc/nanoclaw/blob/main/docs/SPEC.md

The scheduled tasks seem like the major functional difference. Pretty cool.

Has anyone tried Anthropic’s “Cowork”? How does that compare?

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think people do not care about something if they AI generated it? I care about many things I've generated.

It's the perception. "I couldn't be bothered to write a proper README, so I had the AI do it"

AI can write a proper README. In fact, it's better than me at doing so and keeping it up to date. People writing README with AI are bothering to write it. In my experience AI won't automatically create README files for you when making projects with the exception of create project tools which create a default README, but in that case usually the AI ignores it and leaves it in the default state. People are just using a tool that lets them create without manually typing in each individual character.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#137

I think these days if I’m going to be actively promoting code I’ve created (with Claude, no shade for that), I’ll make sure to write the documentation, or at the very least the readme, by hand. The smell of LLM from the docs of any project puts me off even when I like the idea of the project itself, as in this case. It’s hard to describe why - maybe it feels like if you care enough to promote it, you should care to t…

FWIW, this is a variation of the age-old thing about open source.

It isn’t “have it your way”, he graciously made code available, use it or leave it.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#138

I think these days if I’m going to be actively promoting code I’ve created (with Claude, no shade for that), I’ll make sure to write the documentation, or at the very least the readme, by hand. The smell of LLM from the docs of any project puts me off even when I like the idea of the project itself, as in this case. It’s hard to describe why - maybe it feels like if you care enough to promote it, you should care to t…

You will definitely like Josh Mock's recent post: https://joshmock.com/post/2026-agents-md-as-a-dark-signal/

I am confused by “senior-learning engineer”; so he’s learning as a senior, learning at a “senior” level in a “continuous learning”, “life long learning” kind of way? What is senior-learning? Searching for it only comes up with learning for seniors programs.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#139

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OP here. Appreciate your perspective but I don't really accept the framing, which feels like it's implying that I've been caught out for writing and coding with AI. I don't make any attempt to hide it. Nearly every commit message says "Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.5". You correctly pointed out that there were some AI smells in the writing, so I removed them, just like I correct typos, and the writing is now better.…

The problem with LLM-written is that I run into so many README.md's where it's clear the author barely read the thing they're expecting me to read and it's got errors that waste my time and energy. I don't mind it if I have good reason to believe the author actually read the docs, but that's hard to know from someone I don't know on the internet. So I actually really appreciate if you are editing the docs to make the…

I think the other aspect is that if the README feels autogenerated without proper review, then my assumption is that the code is autogenerated without proper review as well. And I think that's fine for some things, but if I'm looking at a repo and trying to figure out if it's likely to work, then a lack of proper review is a big signal that the tool is probably going to fall apart pretty quickly if I try and do something that the author didn't expect.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#140
post #115

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If you want to say something just say it no need for trap questions. Faster delivery of a project being better for engineering is obviously one of the most important things because it gives you back time to invest in other parts of your project. All engineering is trade-offs. Being faster at developing basic code is better, the end. If nothing else you can now spend more time on requirements and on a second iteration…

> obviously one of the most important things because it gives you back time to invest in other parts of your project That is until you get so deep in code debt that you cannot move anymore. There is an equilibrium to be found. Faster is not always better, and trying to have every single line perfect is not good either.

I did mention trade offs.
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